Re: [MV] Junk on ebay ( WW2 German vehicles from the wilds of Russia)

From: MARK ZUREVINSKY (maz_concerts@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Sep 03 2000 - 13:08:12 PDT


Mike,

Thanks for your prompt reply. I find it interesting that you now suggest
that the use of my name was not in a negative manner. I read it differantly.
Strikes me strange that you make reference to my name, but not anyone elses.
Is it because I am the only one that has contacted recently with such
product availibility? Hardly not, I believe.

As for the loss of doing business with you that is entirly your choice.
However, due to the present agreement which I anticipate to last for a
serious amount of time, there really is little chance as I see it for us to
work together anyways. I do not like to burn any bridges. It does seem that
you tossed the match though.

As for the rusted pieces from Eastern Europe, you really do not know what
you are talking about. I have seen and touched some pieces that you cna only
dream about. Again, I will not expend my time telling you about it.

As for the armour and hot dinners, you are probally right as I like my meals
more to room temperature. Time however, will only tell Mr. Mike.

In closing, you make the comment that you have made in your original posting
referencing my name alongside some Ebay deal that sounds like it was drafted
in Disneyland and you then suggest I am rude? I am sorry, but I see it
totally differantly. If I am wrong, I am more then willing to look at it
again.

Regards,

Mark Zurevinsky
for MAZ

PS. as for the digital pissing contest, I prefer to spend my time working on
something much more progressive and mature

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Mike" <tankcity@globalnet.co.uk>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>, "MARK
ZUREVINSKY" <maz_concerts@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [MV] Junk on ebay ( WW2 German vehicles from the wilds of
Russia)
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 18:03:34 +0100

1. The post specifically pointed out that the vendor of a ludicrously
expensive piece of swamp detritus was NOT you. A polite and necessary
reservation under the circumstances.

2. If you have any problems with our private business or e mail
correspondence, it's only manners to contact me off list about matters that
don't need to concern other listers.

3. I am sure that I, as well as any other people who asked perfectly
polite questions, will be only too happy to be excluded from your
circulation list and thus not exposed to further rudeness.

4. I won't lose anything by not having the opportunity to buy rusting
hulks from the Eastern block - yes, I *have* seen some of them. You on the
other hand have lost contact with a prolific dealer. I've bought and sold
more armoured vehicles than you have had hot dinners.

4. Don't worry about my further use of your family name, it's henceforth
excluded from my mailer - so don't waste bandwidth flaming me in return.

5. If you want a digital pissing contest, contact me off list and I'll be
happy to oblige.

Mike Stallwood. RR Services. UK

----- Original Message -----
From: MARK ZUREVINSKY
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Sent: 03 September 2000 08:43
Subject: Re: [MV] Junk on ebay ( WW2 German vehicles from the wilds of
Russia)

Greetings List,

Just returned back from my vacation in Yalta and saw an interesting post
that made reference to my family name.

Not sure how I should take your comment about me (Mr. Zurevinsky) "Mike",
but I do not interpret it as positive. Since we last corresponded, I have
signed an exclusive arrangement for all armour with a specific dealer.
Unfortunately, I am not at liberty to disclose whom this person is and
frankly do not see such need anyways. In addition to that, I further agreed
to grant him "first rights of refusal" on all other military hardware.

That is why, I have suspended all further correspondence with you as well as
the many others that were interested in the items that I have to offer.

I cannot offer anything to the listers other then "buyer beware". That holds
true if you are buying from any source that does not have a solid
reputation/track record.

If you ask me are there German WWII pieces still in Russia? I have to answer
yes. I just bought a NSU Kettenkred from Samara (Russia) that was delivered
to my storage location here in Ukraine where I am presently. I think that
majority of the listers understand that buying the MV is one thing, getting
the proper export documentation in order is another. This is what we and my
associates pride ourselves on.

In closing , I have and will continue to monitor the list as I find it an
excellent source of information. I trust that you (Mike) will refrain from
using my family name in such a way that gives the reader reason to be
concerned.

Regards,

Mark Zurevinsky
for MAZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <tankcity@globalnet.co.uk>
To: "Military Vehicles List" <mil-veh@skylee.com>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Re(2): [MV] Junk on ebay (was: VW FS on Ebay)

> Not to mention the 'Jeep in the crate' scam, 100 new M38/m151/whatever
> lying on some foreign dockside, the convoy of original German vehicles
> buried in a tunnel on Jersey, and the latest serious offer I have
received
> on the internet:
>
> I have in excellent condition Russian WWII tank T-34/76 (model 1942) got
up
> few weeks ago from the Bellorussian swamp . Now it's running 1,000,000$
>
> German Panzerkampfwagen III ausf.M (or later) raised from the river (it
was
> fall down from the bridge). Now either running. 2.500.000$
>
> Guns was disassembled but it's safe and i will sent you the complete
tank.
> It's in the Russian village which is situated too far from the modern
road
> and now i can't sent you any photos (so don't ask me to sent it) . I
will
> transport any of those tanks to England or any other countries.
> If you are ready to pay , contact me.
> Please no comments, but offers are welcome ...
>
> If he wants $2.5 mill for a Panzer 3, how much do you think he would ask
for
> a Tiger?????? I have sent a reply asking if he's got the decimal
point
> in the right place.
>
> Before you all get the flame throwers out, his is NOT our friend Mr
> Zurinevsky. This guy tells you he won't send photos from the outset.
No
> doubt he will want full payment before shipment.
>
> Mike S. UK.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gordon.W.I. McMillan
> To: Military Vehicles List
> Sent: 20 August 2000 08:15
> Subject: [MV] Re(2): [MV] Junk on ebay (was: VW FS on Ebay)
>
>
> It does look like a reasonable little Kubel, though....
>
> If we had a mark / Pound / Dollar each for every Jeep / Kubel / Humber
> that we'd seen that was Eisenhower / Rommel / Monty's own personal
> transport we have enough moneu to buy one. There was an Afrika Korps
> Dodge 1/2 ton on E-bay last month that might never have seen north
Africa.
> I would always value these things exactly the same as the standard
> vehicle.
>
> Gordon
>
>
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