RE: [MV] M52 five ton ALWAYS ON problem fixed. And EMP.

From: Rikk Rogers (rkltd@fullnet.net)
Date: Mon Oct 02 2000 - 10:43:46 PDT


Chuck,
Thanks the FAS reference is excellent.

Dick
is my understanding of the reference correct?
That the NEMP risk in a standard/tactical strike against ground targets is
line of sight (not including "long wire line"), but the actual "high" risk
for NEMP is from high altitude devices built for the purpose?
Also, does this mean that the "ground" effect described could cause damage
thru a grounding rod?

rikk

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Subject: Re: [MV] M52 five ton ALWAYS ON problem fixed. And EMP.

Here is a good reference on EMP:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm

In general, the FAS site is an excellent reference for anything military.
They have pages for almost all current US equipment and weapons
(land-sea-air), plus strategy and tactics, organization, arms control etc.

For example, here is their page on the HMMWV that includes discussion of all
the models, line drawings, photos:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m998.htm

Chuck

chuck@olive-drab.com
www.olive-drab.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rikk Rogers" <rkltd@fullnet.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] M52 five ton ALWAYS ON problem fixed. And EMP.

> Ok, so does it follow the ionosphere like AM, or travel line of sight like
> FM.
> I had read some ware that the logic in not protecting the electronics in
war
> planes better was that if they were close enough for effect the pilot
would
> take enough damage that the plane was the lest of the worries, (used to
keep
> a file, wish i still had it).
> Another reference came in was that the Migs had relatively simple
> electronics and the DoD was not sure why until they figured out that the
> "simpler" electronics were less vulnerable to EMP.
>
> Anyone know how wide the bandwidth of EMP is?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rertman@ix.netcom.com [mailto:rertman@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:19 AM
> To: Rikk Rogers
> Subject: Re: [MV] M52 five ton ALWAYS ON problem fixed. And EMP.
>
>
> Rikk,
>
> Nuclear EMP (NEMP) is definitely NOT a localized phenomenon. To some
> extent it depends on the altitude of the air burst and, of course, the
> weapon's energy yield. In fact, the NEMP effect can be mirrored on the
> opposite side of the world, depending on conditions.
>
> Sorry I can't discuss actual yields, frequencies or energy levels, but
> you could probably find that info on the Web or even in your local
> library.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dick
> Manager (retired), Electromagnetic Environmental Effects
> Lockheed Skunk Works.
>
> Rikk Rogers wrote:
> >
> > I think, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, that EMP is a fairly
> localized
> > phenomena, as I remember It may well be "Line of sight".
> > With an Air burst and a 1k/ft radio tower this is a long way off, but at
> > ground level fallout will probably get you.
> > The need to make vehicles "hard" would apply in a tactical nuke
situation.
> >
> > Also, to protect electronics i was told years ago to encase them in a
can
> or
> > grid, insluted from the circuts and ground the encasement if possable.
> > Theory is it carries the "pulse" past like a car does lightning.
> >
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