Jeff is sooo right about the bureaucrats..they OWE everything, could
not care less about what party is in power... They march to their own
drum and they run the show. period. ANd Mil-Veh collectors are an
insignificant blip on the radar...
Antoine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Winnington-Ball" <gwball@sympatico.ca>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] "Memphis Belle" and More
> Amen to your last. What about the way a couple of enterprising
gentlemen who
> recovered WW2 navy aircraft from the depths have had them
confiscated by the
> U.S. Navy, who couldn't care less about the private money spent, or
the lost
> dedication and resulting bad publicity these actions generated?
>
> MV-related content relevant to the thread: speaking of bureaucracy,
in Canada,
> there are NO controls over private ownership of tank cannon or the
like, I
> suppose because it's acknowledged that no ammunition can by nature
and time
> exist in private hands. So far so good. HOWEVER, if you wish to
bring one in to
> the country, ANOTHER bureaucracy will demand formal deactivation by
cutting and
> welding, even though the item in question is legal WITHIN the
country.
>
> So, take this as an example. Even though Canada manufactured 1,948
Ram and 1,420
> Valentine tanks in WW2, not one running example exists in this
country (for that
> matter, I know of no running Rams and only a handful of running
BRITISH
> Valentines, anywhere). OK, I find a Canadian Ram or Valentine,
someplace. It may
> be complete, but not running. Who cares, it's intact and original!
What a find,
> an amazing piece of Canadian war history! I will pay a lot because
of what it
> is, right off the bat, never mind whether it runs or not. Then I pay
more to put
> it on a ship to bring back here. When I get here, in company with
something
> priceless to the perpetuation of our history, this one department of
our gummint
> will CONFISCATE it unless I have it butchered via the welder's
torch - EVEN
> THOUGH IT'S LEGAL TO OWN COMPLETELY OPERATIONAL ONCE INSIDE THE
COUNTRY.
>
> You Yanks especially, don't feel too sorry for yourselves re the
Form 6 issue -
> this same nonsense exists everywhere. All you can do is pound on the
politicians
> - but realize that they only RENT their offices... the bureaucrats
OWN them. We
> have an uphill battle ahead of us, fellows...
>
> Bureaucrats, whether in uniform or not, are a blight on our
societies. T'is the
> nature of the beast within....
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Geoff Winnington-Ball
> MAPLE LEAF UP! ==>
> Zephyr, Ontario, Canada
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>
>
>
> Robert Barber wrote:
>
> > About as sad as the story for the Shoo-Shoo Baby now out at the
> > Air Force Museum .. In short she was a real combat vet.. One of
> > the TIGR people from Smithsonian found her hulk in an airfield
> > in Denmark (i believe)How it got there and the story of the
orignal
> > pilot is another set of tails themselves. Contacted the original
> > pilot and he went to great lengths to get the plane brought back
to
> > the US.
> >
> > The plane was totally restored by volunteers back to flyable
> > condition at an east coast Air Force base. Part of the deal
> > was that the still living original crew was to get a flight in
> > the plane as reward for helping getting it restored.. And don't
> > you know the Air Farce reneges on the promise and has the plane
> > flown to Ohio with minimum crew..
> >
> > The good news is they have an actual combat vet B-17 on display.
> > The bad news was the CS way they delt with the people who put
> > the time and energy into making it happen..
> >
> > Bottom line is too much politics involved where it belongs least.
>
>
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