Can someone please send a missive regarding what happened to Jack Tomlin?
No editorial, please, just the facts....
I'm not a cop, just damn proud of those who are....
We buried one of them today; he lost his life trying to get drugs off the
street.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chief Richard L. Hileman II <chief@cermak.com>
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Date: Saturday, March 17, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] legal troubles
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Cougarjack@aol.com>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 4:05 AM
>Subject: Re: [MV] legal troubles
>
>
>> Steve,
>> Yes, there are a lot of law enforcement types on this list...there are
>also lots of enforced-against citizens who have issues with police conduct.
>
>Few "enforced-against citizens" don't have issues. Some though look at the
>big picture.
>
>
>> Last time I checked, it was still legal to offend law enforcement
>officials. If that is not the case, let me know so I can call the movers.
>
>It is generally legal, I believe, but it is rather rude.
>
>> While I admit that his remark was gratuitously careless,I had hoped for a
>response with a more, er, intellectual content. Yours sounded more like a
>threat, which, I think, was what the gentleman had in mind when he made his
>remark. If you are suggesting that the police in this country have NOT
>crossed the consitutional line, I'll take you on regarding that issue. If
>you are suggesting that you are not all shitheads, I'll sit quietly and let
>you establish that fact. If you think that he was just a bit careless and
>that his accusation may have some merit, I applaud you and regain a little
>faith in the system. Surprise me!
>> BTW, where I come from, we don't capitalize "law enforcement" . We hold
>them to the same or higher standards than anyone else, and we take umbrage
>with those who consider themselves "Upper Case" citizens.
>
> It is kinda amusing that law enfocement is taking a beating over
profiling
>and yet you are profiling the police. Painting with a rather wide brush,
>eh? Interesting that they are held to higher standards and yet you view
>them with such disdain. What I would admit is this Tomlin seems like a
>really nice guy. As for what happened to him, I haven't seen any first
hand
>accounts, so I won't leap to judgement of him or the officers.
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Jack
>> In a message dated Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:25:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>Stephen L Dussetschleger <dussetschleger@juno.com> writes:
>>
>> << 5. Remember that in the final stages, it will be either a judge
>and/or
>> a
>> jury who decide your fate. They are generally receptive to the truth,
>> unlike
>> the shitheads who do the arresting, who thank God, are NOT the judge and
>> jury.
>
>Well isn't that the point of our system. We find those in violations and
>put them in front of the court. There there will be time for a careful
>examination of the fact and extenuating circumstances. I haven't heard
>anyone propose he wasn't in violation, just that it was technical and de
>minimis.
>
>>
>> ****** Goes to show,y ou gotta watch what you put into print.
>> Otherwise some of us Law Enforcement types ( aka shitheads ?) might take
>> offense.
>> Steve
>
>Hey I take offence as well. (For the nervous types, no threat, no hidden
>meaning, no nothing other than my affront at the comment, and of course as
a
>law enforcement type I guess you wouldn't care what we think, so you can
>just disregard our feelings.)
>
>
>
>
>Rick
>
>the new guy on the list with the CUCV.
>
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