Fw: [MV] Welding Gas tanks successfully

From: samfans (samfans@sprint.ca)
Date: Mon Jun 11 2001 - 12:16:21 PDT


> > Sorry Samfans, and you are entitled to your opinion
>
> As are you.
> >
> > However, get it really clear from the outset I don't drive drunk and I
> will
> > with total care weld a gas tank in the manner I have prescribed.
> > Sanfans, would it be OK if i were paid by the company I worked for to
> > perform this.
>
> yes if you were paid because you were properly trained and could therefore
> explain the chemistry and physics behind the method and how it makes it
> safe. i.e. explain how the soap "neutralizes" the vapours. Look, we're
not
> debating methods over a simple thing here, we're dealing with potentially
> lethal explosive vapours -it shouldn't be treated lightly...those that do,
> do so at extreme peril (IMHO). If you can't explain it, then, again IMHO,
> you're not doing it with total care, you're doing it with total luck.
> >
> >
> > Possibly, you're not sure of yourself in these matters, and that's
> > understandable.
>
> Cute. How "sure" I am of myslef and my abilities doesn't really enter
into
> it. If you're so cock-sure of your experience and abilities that the laws
> of chemistry and physics don't appy to you...well... How do you explain
the
> accidents that have occured to thse that were sure of themselves and took
> precautions? Vapours have been known to explode YEARS after the tank has
> been empty and unused.
>
> >
> > This list is made up of people telling others about their experiences !
>
> It can also be construed as people giving others advice, and this is why I
> have an issue with it. You think your method is a good one, and
explicitly
> reccomend it just by having posted it, and certainly by defending it now.
> If it were just you stating an experience, you wouldn't defend it, as I
> certainly didn't debate the fact that it happened. You are implying that
> it's a good odea / method by having explained it, whether you realize it
or
> not.
> >
> > At no time did I tell people to go ahead and try this.
>
> See above
>
> not anymore that is,
> > than someone on the interenet explaning how to make explosives, or in
fac,
> > how to bungee jump... hot Air ballooing, skydiving. All of which are
> deadly
> > if not done correctly.
>
> And all of which people would be stupid to attempt without proper training
> (which includes a lot of waivers, because of the dangers that cannot be
> eliminated, much the same as the dangers that cannot be eliminated from
> applying heat to any container that ever contained flammable materials)
and
> certainly no sane person would attempt based on a method someone described
> in an e-mail - no matter how well meaning. I wouldn't take sky diving
> lessons from anyone but a liscences and qualified instructor. If you are
a
> liscensed and qualified flamable tank repairman, by all means say so and
> shut me up. Otherwise I still think the suggestion of untrained persons
> applying heat to these containers is wrong and dangerous.
>
>
> >
>
> > Sanfans, thanks for your concerned posting.
> > We are all different and that is what makes this list interesting
>
> Agreed...this is certainly not personal.
> >
> Bill
>



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