Re: [MV] Ferret starter problems part duex

From: Mike S (tankcity@globalnet.co.uk)
Date: Thu Jun 21 2001 - 06:27:04 PDT


Sorry. That last e was from Mike S at RR Services. UK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Merchant" <kosh@nesys.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Ferret starter problems part duex

> Don't know the details of that Lucas starter (as if anyone does),
> but assuming it's similar to a conventional Amurrican one,
> the symptoms may indicate:
>
> 1. The Bendix is not disengaging from the ring gear.
> Turning the engine a bit in the normal direction of rotation
> tends to back the pinion gear down its helical ramp, out of engagement.
> The implication is the Bendix is dirty, gummy, worn, or corroded (maybe
all
> of these),
> or the return spring (if any) is weak.
>
> 2. Any sound at all when it's in sleep mode? A click?
> Silence or just a click may indicate a bad commutator segment
> (pitted, broken segment, broken wire), open winding, or worn-out brushes
> Again, turning the engine with the Bendix still engaged would move
> the commutator to a new position.
>
> 3. If the starter spins but doesn't engage, again, that implies gummed up
> Bendix,
> or bashed up pinion or ring gear teeth, preventing engagement.
>
> Starters aren't that complicated, but first you need to get them out!
>
> Probably a fair chance that the starter is at least partially parts
> interchangeable
> with a civvy automotive or truck Lucas starter, and there are lots of
> rebuilders out there.
> Note that NAPA in the US has a huge inventory of parts you wouldn't expect
> to find,
> in a long rack of catalogs, available on overnight order...
>
> -Dave M.
> ...no MV's yet, just old tractors so far...
> ...and spent many years fiddling with Lucas, Smiths, and Girling bits!
>
> BTW, it looks like the addressing on the list is set up so replies
> go to the individual sender, rather than to the list?
> Adding a "Reply-To" on the list setup would change this.
>
>
> At 10:28 PM 6/17/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >Lucas Princess of Darkness strikes again. As a post script to my starter
> >woes. You may recall I could not get the starter switch to engage with
any
> >degree of certainty recently. Like today when I was on my way to a car
> show.
> > Two hours later, it just starts up like there was never a problem.
Runs
> >perfectly! Even won 2nd place at the Rancheria Air and Vehicle Show.
> >
> >So lets say the starter switch is in one of the "I won't work" modes and
I
> am
> >tinkering around looking for a reason. I've discovered when you use the
> >engine crank and roll the engine over just a turn.... the starter
> >works???!!!! Coincidence? Perhaps. But, I like to think of it as one of
> the
> >completely unexplainable events attributed to the nether world of Lucas
> >Prince of Darkness.
> >
> >Given how little I used the Ferret, I suppose on that odd time that it
won't
> >engage the starter, a little hand crank to coax it to work is an
> >inconvenience I could live with, but it's an odd one isn't it? lol
> >
> >Lastly, my profound thanks to those of you who have responded with
> >suggestions such saying incantations, burning the Ferret at the stake or
an
> >exorcism, all very helpful I'm sure and taken under advisement.
> >
> >Jack Lee
> >
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