Re: [MV] MUTT "fairy tale"?

From: Gene Pantano (truks@cs.quik.com)
Date: Tue Jul 10 2001 - 09:24:29 PDT


Hey Gilmore..I saw the jeep -- remember that. The place where the data
plates go on the dash..well, there was never a screw in the holes. The man
who owns these vehicles has a bill of sale and proof it came from AM
General. You don't think for a minute that AM would make them up special for
the guy do you ?? They were most likely just simply pulled from the line of
what ever was being done at the time. Go see them in person and then report
to the list with your dumb answers.. As far as the "C" goes it was just a
stupid guess like your answers..Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim gilmore" <jgilmore@ptd.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] MUTT "fairy tale"?

>
> Gene wrote:
>
> >..........here are some links to the MUTTS I looked at yesterday..One is
> >a museum piece and should be "in one". !! It is an AM General that was
> >bought through a court case by a Active Duty GI..he wanted to buy a
151A2
> >and was told "NO" by AM General. He took it to court and after 2
years..WON
> >and bought 2.!! This is one of them. Instead of a regular GI Data plate ,
it
> >has an AM General plate under the hood with "special" numbers..
...........
>
> Now this story sounded a bit like a "fairy tale"....... like the
$50.00
> jeep-in-a-crate ones. The "special" number on the "data plate" in the
> photos had a familiar ring to it............
>
> ................ The serial number that AM General applied starts with a
> 'C"--as
> in their "CJ" vehicles.. "Civilian Jeep"..in the case of the
151.."Civilian
> 151".. Like I said..there were only 2 of these made.. If anyone knows of
any
> others that they saw and can vouch for....especially the data plate..(no
"I
> heard abouts).., I'd sure like to know about it..!.........
>
> The "C" in the serial number of this MUTT is does not stand for
> "Civilian"......It's just the next letter that comes after "B". Like I
> said......the number of the jeep (C151-08380) sounded familiar so I got
out
> some of the data plates I've took off some of the M-151-A2's I
disassembled
> several years ago.
>
> In my collection are some data plates from contract
> DAAE07-77-C-3404. The numbers on my plates are C151-08287, C151-08291 and
> C151-08504. This would put the "fairy tale" jeep (C151-08380) right in
> the middle of this contract! In fact, this was a Air Force contract for
> these MUTTS. The jeep that this fellow says a soldier bought from AM
> General was made for (and delivered to) the Air Force and had a Air Force
> registration (hood) number of 78K457.
>
> A good look at the "data plate" on this jeep shows it to be printed
> and not stamped and the AM General logo is not on the plate. Actually,
> this plate looks like it was made up at a trophy place and not a real
> legal V.I.N. plate.
>
> As for the "C" in the number, it is just a continuation of the
> earlier AM General serial numbers. Plates in my collection from the
earlier
> contract DAAE07-76-D-0002 have serial numbers of B151-60149 and B151-60188
> (registration numbers NBOGMC and NBOGNH).
>
> The seller's story did seem a little too good to be true............
>
> As always..........buyer beware!
>
> Jim
>
>
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>
> Jim Gilmore
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>
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