From: Stu Ellis (stuellis@attbi.com)
Date: Thu May 09 2002 - 08:22:35 PDT
Any cargo ships going out of a port up there?
Stu
Southern New Hampshire, USA
"Live Free Or Die"
MVPA #14790 MVMVC
1967 M151A1 Army Jeep
1964 M416 1/4 Ton Trailer
1986 M1009 CUCV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Lathrop" <lathrrs@snip.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Ok, who bought a M109 155mm SPG?
>
> It might be going to a Reserve unit that is getting ready to convert to a
heavy arty unit or it may be going out to familiarize a unit that is getting
ready to go to training.
>
> In the early 90's the US army shipped a T62 from Aberdeen to a local NG
unit in NJ for familarisation before they were to act as OPFOR units with
thier M60's.
>
> Rick
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> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Steve Grammont <islander@midmaine.com>
> Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:04:08 -0400
>
> >Hi John,
> >
> >>Although it would be nice to think that some collector was having that
M109
> >>moved, I suspect that it was just the Army. I think that we would all be
> >>amazed at the amount of money that the military spends each year on
civilian
> >>transport of heavy equipment.
> >
> >I can buy that, but where was it going? Maine has almost no Army
> >presence worth speaking of. There are no large Army bases either. We
> >are way out of the way of everything, so what was it doing coming up
here?
> >
> >>In September of 2000 I saw two M60 tanks, on
> >>civilian tractor/trailer rigs, heading west through Pennsylvania. I
assumed
> >>then, and still believe, that they were US government property. That
> >>is...unless somebody is aware of the government selling M60's to the
public.
> >
> >Er... they have :-) Jaques Littlefield owns, IIRC, 5 variants of the
> >M60. I also have seen several in private museums. In fact, there is a
> >small military museum down the road from me a bit which has a M60 sitting
> >on a pedastal to attract visitors driving by on the highway. My gut
> >feeling is that this M109 is going to that very same museum.
> >
> >>The "road rage" sign was a nice touch, but I wonder if the
tractor/trailer
> >>driver might have put it there? As to what one M109 was doing on its way
to
> >>Maine...who knows. It could very well be on its way to an Artillery unit
up
> >>there.
> >
> >As far as I know, we do not have any heavy units in Maine. We have some
> >guard units, for sure, but I am pretty sure it is just towed stuff. I'll
> >see reps from this unit in July so I can ask them. The M109 is a fairly
> >special vehicle which I doubt they hand out to any hillbilly cannon
> >cocker unit :-)
> >
> >>It might have been on its way to some VFW post, for use as a
> >>monument.
> >
> >Knowing how many teeth a local VFW had to pull to get an old towed 105...
> >I doubt it :-)
> >
> >>We can all dream, and I wouldn't mind waking up on day to find that I
was
> >>the owner of an M109, but I believe that what you saw was not a
privately
> >>owned piece of armor. I'm sure that somebody will correct me if I am
wrong,
> >>but I don't think that the government will allow something like an M109
to
> >>be sold to the public.
> >
> >My guess is that it is going to a museum. It is the ONLY thing that
> >makes complete and total sense. I could, of course, be quite wrong about
> >that, but overall I still think that is the best guess. I'll try and
> >contact the museum next month when they are open for the season again and
> >see if they know anything. If I find out anything, I will post here.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
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