From: J. Lee (milveh@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Tue Aug 06 2002 - 07:53:50 PDT
Steve, with all due respect and in the spirit of a good difference of
opinion:
What does an engine cost for a Pinz and where do you get one? And how much
does it cost to import one? I actually would like know, my guess is it's
probably pretty expensive and hard too find.
Have you seen the internal works of the Pinz uni-transmission/rear end
thing? Wow, what a mechanics nightmare, but it is well engineered to be
tough, no doubt about it. Just need a PHD in mechanics to overhaul one and
what shop would even attempt it?
This is the anxiety factor I was talking about. Not saying the Pinz isn't a
fine vehicle, but the Valp outsells them for a reason and my stress level in
being a Valp owner is a lot lower knowing most parts are cheap and
available. For instance Volvo engines at the wrecking yard go for about
$150-250... can't recall seeing too many Pinz engines at the local
wreckers.... at any price. I'll take my (Model A simple) Valp for price,
performance, reliability and repairability anytime over the exotic
(Ferrari-like) Pinz.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Grammont" <islander@midmaine.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Pinzgauer SWISS Military on E-bay
>
>
> >Man you really have to want one of those things to buck up 15K...wow!
> > $15k is a bit steep for a 710k as I have seen them going for more like
> $12k recently. The going rate for a 710M (softop version of the 710) is
> roughly $8k-$10k. I think most people would rather have the soft top
> version as the hardtop turns the back into a convection oven without
> propper ventilation :-) Whatever benefits the hardtop offers (if any), I
> certainly don't think it is worth spending almost 2x the money vs. a
> decent condition softop version. With this economy, there are a lot of
> Pinzes being sold off due to job losses and other negatives.
>
> As for Jack Lee's comments on the upkeep of a Pinz, I would think the
> Pinz is about comperable (if not slighly better) in terms of maintainence
> cost to the Vlap. Many of the parts are stock Bosch/VW, with all but the
> traditional big ticket items (engine, transmission, gearbox, etc.) being
> reasonably priced compared to other vehicles out there. Certainly better
> than owning an expensive contemporary vehicle like a Mercedes or BMW I am
> sure!
>
> One of the great things about a Pinz is that if you get a decent one, and
> take good care of it (fluid levels, non-abusive driving, not doing
> anything stupid to the electrical system as some have done, etc.) it is
> probably no more expensive than any other non armored wheeled military
> vehicle. I would guess less in fact. The vehicle is fairly simplistic
> by design and easy to maintain. Many Pinz owners use theirs as daily
> drivers and have put tens of thousands of relatively trouble free miles
> on them.
>
> But like any 25+ year old vehicle, something will break or wearout. But
> that has more to do with age than it does with the Pinz itself since this
> is a natural condition. I can say, however, that everybody that sees my
> Pinz can not believe that it is 30 years old this year. It looks far,
> far, FAR better than the 15 year old trucks and cars that populate my
> area :-) They are falling apart while mine looks like it is ready for a
> parade, inside and out. And besides some cosmetic things I have done,
> that is exactly how I bought it.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
>
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Fri Aug 16 2002 - 11:38:35 PDT