From: kuhrick (kuhrick@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Oct 01 2002 - 15:31:37 PDT
the army leasingf tham and thay geting sold off atb 3 years old
i think it stinks
it will screw me out of buying any at the going resale prices
it mite be a good deal for tham and the maker
butt me as a low income truck buyer
i'l be farther than evere away from geting any
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ball" <vought@msn.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] H2 and Real Trucks... Dodge rules
>
> Military tactical vehicles are built to fulfill a certain mission design
> criteria some are narrow in scope others have multirole capability the
HMMWV
> or Humvee is a multirole vehicle and can do many different jobs. It is
> highly respected by our Troops and loved by many civilians in its civilian
> role.
> If you look Back to WW2 to the 3/4 ton Dodge you will see another
multirole
> design (WC 52, 53, 54, 56) it was a new military design unlike the
civilian
> dodge trucks the 1/2 tons shared parts with and was much loved by the
troops
> and civilians in War and the post war as the Power Wagon.
> Many trucks were based on this early design (remember the M37, M43, M56,
> M701) and its design evolved with time finally becoming the Dodge military
> 4x4 called the M880, M886... the Dodge M880 family was also a multirole
> military vehicle was it loved by the troops I think the court is still out
> on that one.
> Many collectors say the M37 Family of vehicles was the best designed
> military vehicle Dodge built and the same collectors give many reasons
most
> of these reasons could be called refinements some would call them
> revelations in design. Other collectors would say the only military truck
> Dodge ever built worth a damn was the WW2 Dodge 3/4 ton.
> The point is there are many "dumber me two designs" you are probably
driving
> one now in one way are another.
> I think the H2 is just the next step in many the Hummer will need to go
> through as a civilian vehicle after all this is just another role for a
> multirole vehicle.
> We have seen the Jeep take on many roles I bet someone out there was upset
> when the new Jeepster came out in 1949.
> As a collector I have owned Many Dodge military trucks early and late and
2
> Humvees and I can say I loved everyone and I am open minded enough to say
I
> like the H2 regardless of what its perception is at this time it will earn
> the respect it deserves doing the job it was designed for.
> I also hope Dodge builds the COMBATT truck for the Military so I can buy
> Cummins parts surplus in the next reiteration of the good ole multirole
> Dodge Military Truck Line 1915-20??.
> http://www.tacom.army.mil/tardec/nac/projects/combatt.htm
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Davis" <cdavis@webworldinc.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:55 PM
> Subject: [MV] H2 and Real Trucks...
>
>
> > I didn't want to weigh in on this, but sometimes one can't resist.
> >
> > I think most of us on this list appreciate the UTILITY part of "Sport
> > Utility". We like trucks that do the job... or maybe any vehicle where
> > form follows function.
> >
> > Military trucks tend to hold closely to this rule because to do
otherwise
> > could get one killed.
> >
> > When we see a design that stands that equation on it's head... something
> > created with "form" being the top priority, we know it. IT can even
have
> > some neat features... the late (may God rest its soul) Pontiac AZTEC
comes
> > to mind... (pardon my shudder).
> >
> > The H2 reminds me of a Pontiac AZTEC... only worse... because it leaches
> > off the good name of the Hummer... which, while refined in silly ways,
was
> > still a HMMWV underneath it all.
> >
> > The H2 may be more capable off road than a Cadillac Escalade, but I
think
> > it's an even dumber "me too" design.
> >
> > Chris Davis
> > MVPA# 20000
> > Soon to be Lake Elsinore, CA
> >
> >
> >
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