Re: [MV] total brake loss with the deuce?

From: Patrick Jankowiak (eccm@swbell.net)
Date: Thu Nov 14 2002 - 23:08:01 PST


Same here, and I use the xfer case in town too. I have had to lock up the brakes once because an extremely foolish ass cut in front of me.

Rikk Rogers wrote:
>
> In my driving, I rarely use the brakes.
> Up shift and down shift at all stops, and use the brakes at less than 5 mph.
> The only place I worry about would be an emergency stop, and worry more
> about my reflexes than the brakes.
> I pat my self on the back when I do a 20 to 50 mile run with out ever having
> the brake lights come on.
>
> Rikk Rogers - RK Lion LTD.
> (580)762-3157 rkltd@swbell.net
> http://home.swbell.net/rkltd/
> -M35A2- -M38- MVPA -22345-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> Behalf Of Bjorn Brandstedt
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:01 AM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: [MV] Split braking system; some considerations.
>
> Morning List,
>
> If you are contemplating the change to a split braking system, consider the
> following:
>
> 1) Adding components to any system increases the probability of a failure.
>
> 2) Installing double flared brake lines under non-controlled conditions
> (hand vs machine) will effect the reliability of each connection.
>
> 3) The novice may not consider all the reasons for routing the tubing a
> specific way to keep it out of harms way, thus increasing the probability
> for a failure by metal fatigue or exposure to rocks etc.
>
> 4) Over or under torquing of a fitting reduces the reliability of the
> connection.
>
> 5) Problems with balancing the brake forces between the two halves of a
> split brake system under normal operating conditions. Diagonal or front and
> back.
>
> 6) The probability of just one of the two halves failing as opposed to the
> failure of both at the same time. Even a split braking system can experience
> total failure.
>
> With more time, I could find other considerations, I’m sure, but perhaps
> this will get you thinking.
>
> Question: Has anyone tested the hand brake at any speed other than for
> parking? How good is it at slowing the vehicle in case of service brake
> failure?
> Also, has anyone ever experienced total brake loss with the deuce?
>
> Have a great day,
> Bjorn
>
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