From: Henry J. Fackovec (hfackovec@easternems.com)
Date: Tue Mar 04 2003 - 10:18:12 PST
Hey all:
As a businessman, I suggest the best way to get a person/organizations
attention is to aim for the pocketbook.
In my experience, for vendors a consistant placement at a flea market is
a key part of the success of the operation. (I have had the same spot at
Dayton for the past 17 years), people remember who you are, remember
that the guy at the end of the row had cheap Dodge parts....keep
continuity....
Hearing of this travesty and the poor treatment of Ronzo (Only *I* can
abuse him..) I am personally going to boycott this rally. When they hear
the cash box not ringing, they will know it's me.... Vendors take note:
With Ronzo egging me on I have been known to drop 2-3 grand on parts and
crap at a rally...
Hankie
Sitting alone in the corner singing "We shall over come"
-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
Behalf Of Ronzo
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: [MV] WARNING!!!! VENDORS !! 30th Annual East Coast Rally or The
road to hell...
Is paved with good intentions, or so the saying goes.
For those vendors who received the "Registration Form For Spaces"
from the WAC/B&G MVT in a mailing that occurred on or about January
20th, 2003 or are going by the ads in MV Mag or Supply Line, and read
the line on the form that states "Yes: I want the same spaces from May
2002 Rally____ Note; only held until 15 March 2003" and think you still
have time to send in your money. NOT!!!!!
Your spaces from last year are GONE!
Check out the site: http://www.wacbgmvt.org/ecr/index.html
I received the mailing on January 23rd, 2003. On Feb 3, 2003 a
change was posted on the Rally WEB SITE saying, Oops...never mind. If
you want your space, send in your money by 15 February or the spaces
will go to whoever we want to give them too.
No postcard notification to the folks who were mailed Registration
Forms just 11 days earlier with the now bogus info. Just a note on the
rally web site. What about vendors who don't have time to check the
website EVERY 20 minutes for changes?
The same ad runs in the March 2003 Supply Line on pg 21, and on page
142 of the February issue of MV Magazine.
They run a great rally, volunteers or not, but you can't, morally,
change the rules in the last quarter of the game.
When I queried the change yesterday, and I must say I didn't use a
single four letter word, I received a reply where the registrar tried
to find us (2 folks involving 5 spaces, but there were actually 4 of us
involved in a block of 8 spaces{now gone} ) equal space, but no longer
together.
He stated he was doing the best he could.
" This is a non-profit event, all proceeds go to charitable
organizations, e.g. Scouts, Museum, etc.
"I do what I can, we are all volunteers in a club of about 200 so
its
death by committee. I am lucky enough to be point man handling the
registration. Too many competing demands for additional display space
to
accommodate the Convoy coming in on 8 May and the re-enactment units.
All of those in Row A as well as those nearest the display area in first
3 aisles had to move. "
They didn't know this was happening at the time of the mailing?
One of my 'neighbors' also weighed in on the subject, and while
strident, said nothing that could be construed as abusive. ( All emails
exchanged so far can be forwarded off line if anyone is interested.
Contact me off line)
The reply that was then sent out by the rep of the "WAC/B&G MVT" at
0602 this AM was :
" Hello
Choose from what is available to meet your (groups needs) needs,
pass on
the Rally...... I am not in a position to debate the fairness or
legality
of holding spaces through 15 March.
Regards...."
Take it or leave it, not my problem.....
Any lawyer types on the list willing to offer an opinion on this
situation?
Any other MV Club officials who run rallies and flea markets
agree with this type of attitude?
Why is there an attitude that 'Oh well, your just a vendor....
Tango Sierra. Get over it.' ?
What is a clubs responsibilities when it runs an organized,
advertised rally. If it makes statements in national publication
advertisements and mailings, are they accountable for what they print?
This is more than idle curiosity, since my club runs several rallies
a year. When does 'just a volunteer, up to my butt in alligators " stop
being a defense? When monies collected for an event, for what ever
reason pass what amount....$500, $5000, $15,000?
What about if it is a sanctioned event by the MVPA? Anything
required by the MVPA regarding rules on last minute changes? Or how MVPA
members are supposed to treat each other, and the public?
Remember how back in the 60's, a man was judged by his words and
deeds. A handshake was binding? Now you can't even believe in what gets
put down on paper.
This is one of the absolute high points of the MV hobby for me each
year, and it just turned to ashes in my mouth.
After this post, I will probably not be allowed to purchase spaces,
but a heads up is in order for anyone else involved in this fiasco but
not yet aware of it.
Heck of a way to run the Hobby....
Regards, Ronzo
MVPA 18999
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