From: Stu Ellis (stuellis@attbi.com)
Date: Sat Mar 15 2003 - 04:43:46 PST
BTW- A transmission cooler is recommended if you are going to use to tow.
As a matter of fact, I would put one on anyway, since heat is what usually
destroyed the TH400 trans. I put one in mine when I put new trans in.
"Stu"
Southern New Hampshire, USA
'Live Free Or Die"
MVPA #14790 MVMVC
1967 M151A1 Jeep
1964 M416 1/4 Ton Trailer
1986 M1009 CUCV Blazer
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ball" <vought@msn.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:06 AM
Subject: [MV] CUCV's and towing with a 6.2 boat motor
> I have had two Hummers, one a 1994 M1026 slant back HMMWV and the other a
> 1996 civy Wagon I towed with both the civy Turbo did better but still fell
> apart quite often and got terrible mileage.
> The 6.2 and 6.5 are terrible engines for towing economically but will tow
if
> asked too. I have a 2001 Dodge W2500 V-10 (488cu.in.) engine that will
pull
> circles around the 6.2. I have pulled a 14,000lb trailer up a 10% grade at
> 65 miles an hour with the AC on of course the mileage stinks but it is
very
> close to both Hummers 16MPG. The Big difference is the Dodge has not broke
> down the GM diesel was a head gasket, #8 cylinder, glow plug, injector
pump
> eating pile of bird droppings. I sat one night and went over what it cost
to
> own for a year and with out warranty it would have been $24,000 dollars
> seeing AMG changed the motor twice in my 96 and then the turbo, And then
the
> head gasket and many other things. You cannot compare commercial use to
> personal use because of the maintenance that's available and bigger
> transmissions and gearing used. I think the 6.5 is better suited to
hauling
> a load with a intercooler Turbo and a 5 speed manual transmission the
safe
> power range is between 1000 and 2000 rpm it is hard to drive in this range
> with a turbo 400 automatic transmission and a heavy load climbing grades
> second 2nd gear is a killer when hauling it will be head gasket time soon
> unless you pull in behind the big rigs and pull up at 35 MPH.
> My Dodge cost $26,000 with 1 ton suspension and all the living room add
ons
> and it will haul a 2500 pound equipment trailer with a 1 1/2 ton Chevy
dump
> truck with winch on the back plus a ton of odds and ends no problem its
> almost like nothings back there...... Try that with your CUCV better yet
> don't.
> The Cummins was a $6500 option I priced a V10 in the crate $4700 new I
will
> change my motor or buy a new truck at 150,000 miles what good is a motor
> that lasts 300,000 miles if the rest of the truck is a worn out wreck.....
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill George" <primemover@2xtreme.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] CUCV's
>
>
> > Yeah, let's see a 6.2 last as long as a Cummins, Powerstroke or Duramax
> > towing the 14,000 pounds I do everyday;)
> > Bill
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julian Burke" <julian@knology.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:36 PM
> > Subject: [MV] CUCV's
> >
> >
> > > " The 6.2 diesel is a great motor for a "car" however I wouldn't want
> to
> > > use one
> > > to tow any kind of heavy load."
> > >
> > > Why not?? That's what they were designed for in the first place. I
> can't
> > > imagine wasting one in a "car"! I know of many local large delivery
> vans
> > > that use them daily (6.2L) from hauling bread, floor surfacing
products
> > and
> > > heavy stuff on pallets day in and day out!! BTW, the 6.2L was never
> > > designed for a car and have never seen one in a car. Julian Burke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> > > To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to
> <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> > > To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
> >
> >
> > ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> > To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to
<mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> > To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
> >
>
> ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Wed Apr 23 2003 - 13:25:52 PDT