Re: [MV] MV display at recruting event, attitude of the public

From: Patrick Jankowiak (eccm@swbell.net)
Date: Sun Apr 06 2003 - 23:11:02 PDT


Point well taken. I've never seen any action other than a bicyclist
with a broken arm, two drunks fighting, and a dangerously overheating
generator set (not ours). For this I am thankful, and I am doubly
thankful to those who have seen as you say both good and bad.

Who do I, with no Federal military experience, watch and try to learn
from, in the Texas Guard? It's the Veterans who have seen it and done
it. Mostly it's the senior NCO's. With no disrespect to officers or
anyone else, it's those guys who made a career of jumping out of
perfectly good aircraft or trudging around in the woods in other
countries, who will watch your six like a hawk, keep you from doing
stoopid things, and make a good soldier of you, lead by example.

Hey by the way my brother sent a picture, don't know from where, you
guess:

"208.190.133.201/100_0083c.JPG"

MV content: a HMMWV is shown in the picture.

micdunn wrote:
>
> RE: Attitude of the public.
> I have served a total of 26 years in uniform, 4 British and 22 US. In that
> time I have served with honor and integrity. I love my country (both of
> them!) and hope to serve until I am forcibly retired. Having seen a hell of
> a lot, both good and bad, I feel caution when dealing with the public. They
> can be very fickle. I think that the sentiments expressed by Rudyard Kipling
> in "Tommy" pretty much sum up a soldiers relationship with the public he
> serves. "Tommy" is english slang for a soldier.
> All is not gloom, enjoy the attitude while it lasts!
> -Sarge
>
> TOMMY
> by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)
>
> I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
> The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
> The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
> I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
> O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
> But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
> The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
> O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.
>
> I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
> They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
> They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
> But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
> For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
> But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
> The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
> O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.
>
> Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
> Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
> An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
> Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
> Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
> But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
> The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
> O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.
>
> We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
> But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
> An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
> Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
> While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
> But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
> There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
> O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.
>
> You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
> We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
> Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
> The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
> For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
> But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
> An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
> An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
>
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