Re: [MV] Bio-Diesel Update!

From: Bruce Beattie (bruce@eecs.berkeley.edu)
Date: Wed Apr 09 2003 - 12:38:20 PDT


Please post your drawings/plans, when you are done!
Bruce MVPA 23824

Michael Goodden wrote:

> Hi Adam
>
> Good to hear of someone using bio on a regular basis. B20 is 20% bio
> diesel and 80% normal diesel which is fine for the rubber components.
> The problem comes with higher percentages and particularly using B100
> which is what I'm looking to do. (well, will end up running between
> B50-B100 depending on whats in the tank when I make up a batch of
> Bio-Diesel)
>
> The Methanol or Ethanol is used within the manufacture of the
> Bio-Diesel. You take 87% Veg oil and mix it with 12% Ethanol along with
> a 1% catalyst for the transesterification process which gives you
> Bio-Diesel and a by product of Glycerine which can be used for soap.
>
> I'm building a little bio-diesel maker so that I can make it on the road
> during the around the world journey!
>
> Thanks
> Mike
> ___________________
> Michael Goodden
> The Global Tipi Adventure
> http://TheTipi.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Suess [mailto:ajsuess@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 08 April 2003 23:18
> To: mgmv@auroragroup.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [MV] Bio-Diesel Update!
>
> I've been using soy oil based bio diesel for 4 years now, in
> concentrations
> of 10% or 5%. Ordered 1,500 gallons of B20 or 20% for this spring. I
> haven't
> had any degradation of rubber fuel related parts as of yet. I have run
> it
> 100% in a little Oliver 77 diesel tractor no problem but the exhaust
> smells
> a bit different. Gained about 8 hp on the 36 hp tractor at 100% soy
> diesel
> in dino tests. I wasn't aware that they make bio diesel out of methanol.
> But
> have heard of the ethanol version being tested around here. In Minnesota
>
> there was a bill to mandate 2% bio diesel by 2005 but I don't know what
> became of it. Thanks, Adam Suess
>
> >From: "Michael Goodden" <mgmv@auroragroup.co.uk>
> >To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> (Military Vehicles Mailing List)
> >Subject: [MV] Bio-Diesel Update!
> >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 15:29:54 +0100
> >
> >Hi All
> >
> >I thought I'd let you know some quick info that I've found out on the
> >Bio-Diesel front.
> >
> >As you make Bio-Diesel with Methanol or Ethanol it makes the fuel
> >corrosive to rubber components. Therefore for it to work as a regular
> >fuel in a Multi-fuel engine (or any old engine that uses rubber seals
> >and pipes) all rubber elements that come into contact with the fuel
> >would need replacing with a synthetic version that would not be
> >corroded.
> >
> >If used only occasionally it wouldn't be a major issue, but if you're
> >planning on running it as the main fuel then the change would be
> >required.
> >
> >Has anyone else found anything interesting out on alternative fuels?
> >
> >Hope this helps
> >Thanks
> >Mike
> >___________________
> >Michael Goodden
> >The Global Tipi Adventure
> >http://TheTipi.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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