From: John Seidts (jseidts@astory.com)
Date: Wed Aug 13 2003 - 06:22:42 PDT
I have been contacted several times by various people, including one who
wanted a manual for an AH1 (Cobra). He said his client was in West Africa.
I emailed back saying that I would not sell to overseas purchasers (and
really won't sell to anybody other than those I know). He emailed back
telling me that the manual would go to a US address. Still sounding fishy,
I asked how he wanted to make payment. He then came back with the reply
that he would be sending a check to me in a "certain amount", and would I be
gracious enough to return the difference after shipping, etc. etc. I did
not respond, but forwarded it to address of friend who is interested in such
things. Never heard from them again. All the emails sounded like
legitimate inquiries at first. Then they devolved into poor English and
money scam language. They are hitting us hard, and supposedly, this is one
of the largest money making occupations in Sub Saharan Africa.
It used to just be "Buyer beware."
But hey, if you send me $10.00, I'll send you instructions on how to
permanently protect yourself from such EMAIL scams...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Shoop" <shoop19@brick.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Buyer from England
> Scam................
>
> Had a reply to my ad on the Resin M3 Breech I make. The e-mail looked cut
> and pasted which raises my suspicions. Buyer wanted the breech
M3M6...which
> was wrong, and was having an associate in the US that owed him a sum of
> money, send me a check.
>
> I was to send the item, M3M6 breech to an address in England. Several
> e-mails follower confirming the deal and announcing the sending of a
> Cashier's Check Via FEDEX to me the next day, Friday.
>
> Friday came and so did FEDEX from some guy I never heard of, a check drawn
> on the US Bank of San Francisco for five thousand dollars for a six
hundred
> dollar item. The last e-mail stated to send item and forward balance of
cash
> to the Western Union system for the buyer to pick up in England.
>
> Went out of town that day and the e-mails and phone calls came pouring in,
> "where is the money"? "I know the check has arrived as FEDEX and my
> associate has confirmed", overseas operator calling, message.."where is
the
> money, why haven't you consummated our agreement"...??????again and
> again....
>
> By now, Monday , I go to the bank and show the officer the check.....she
> makes several calls....SCAM,,,BOGUS check. It started as a Cashier's check
> for $80 not five thousand. By Tuesday the e-mails and calls stop,,,I still
> have the check.....and all is well....BE Careful.....Seller Beware!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nigel Hay MILWEB (www.milweb.net)" <Nigel@milweb.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:48 AM
> Subject: [MV] Nigerian vehicle Purchase Scam
>
>
> > Folks, lots of people in UK and Europe are being targetted by West
> Africans
> > offering to buy higher value vehicles unseen and sending checks for the
> full
> > amount plus "shipping" - then calling the vendor next day to ask them to
> pay
> > the "shipper" there and then before check is cleared - which of course
it
> > never will. It is widespread in the classic car market now so I thought
> you
> > may be interested to see the warning we send all our classified
> advertisers
> > as an autoresponse. Is it cropping up in USA?
> >
> > Dear Advertiser
> >
> > MILWEB is currently receiving 10.500 hits a week and is as I am sure you
> are
> > aware very aware, highly successful.
> > However, we feel you should know there is currently a group of criminals
> > targeting a wide range of vehicle advertisers, both in publications and
on
> > the internet, with a clever scam. These fraudsters are normally of West
> > African origin and are very experienced at such activities. You may be
> > interested in looking at some of the scams exposed on
> www.ladsfromlagos.com
> > or www.scamorama.com
> > It currently involves offering payment for the vehicle plus shipping
> (this
> > often sounds like a large amount of money) , without viewing it, payment
> > being made with a 3rd party cheque or bank transfer for more than the
> asking
> > price. The scam involves the seller being asked to reimburse some of the
> > balance to the buyer - from what is effectively a worthless cheque or
> faked
> > bank transfer. They then disappear into the ether with your money.
> > MILWEB advises that you are very careful of anyone offering such a
> payment,
> > tempting as it is.
> > Contact is nearly always by E Mail. The fraudsters may ask for your bank
> > account details- DO NOT GIVE YOUR BANK DETAILS TO ANYONE WHO IS UNKNOWN
TO
> > YOU.
> >
> > MILWEB advises that you are careful of anyone offering such a payment,
> > tempting as it is.
> > Any suspicions should be reported to the police. Please keep copies of
any
> E
> > Mails you may receive from any suspicious parties.
> >
> > Whilst MILWEB can accept no responsibilities for any loss or problems
> > incurred in any transactions resulting from your MILWEB advertisements,
we
> > feel it is important that you are made aware of such scams.
> >
> > As they say on Crimewatch -"don't have nightmares....."
> >
> > Thankyou for using MILWEB.
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> >
> > Nigel Hay
> > Publisher
> > www.milweb.net
> >
> >
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