Re: [MV] 20 years from now

From: Steve & Jeanne Keith (cckw@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Sep 19 2003 - 14:49:26 PDT


Hydrogen is the transport (of energy) mechanism.

Yes you must seperate the water initially by some means but that
as stated below can be many things. It will require a new infrastructure
to create and distribute it. We are MUCH better off with hydrogen than
with batteries! I personally only want ONE change from the present
system and that is to hydrogen, NOT batteries!

Required HMV content: BMW has developed a gasoline based engine
that can burn hydrogen. This is potentially great news for us HMV owners
with gasoline engines .

Steve AKA Dr Deuce

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] 20 years from now

> It's all about effiency. If you burn all the petroleum in one or a few
spots
> you can control how it burns much better that if you let it burn in a
> bazillion little spots. You can condense the water vapor and drink it. Try
> that with the vapor that comes out of a gas engine.
>
> An all-hydrogen future is inevitable. What are you going to burn when oil
is
> gone? It's just a matter of time. Besides, you can generate hydrogen from
> many difference sources other than petroleum. Petroluem come from, well,
> petroleum.
>
> As far as natural balances goes, I would rather have zillions of fuel
cells
> than gas engines.
>
> Mark
>
> >From: "Dave Winslow \(Dad\)" <David@Winslow.mv.com>
> >To: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: [MV] 20 years from now
> >Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:36:45 -0400
> >
> >From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
> >
> > > If our leaders were smart, we'd be burning hydrogen.
> >
> >Where would you get all that hydrogen? From oil maybe?
> >
> > > It makes so much sense
> > > that it is almost a given that our government will screw it up. It
> >is our
> > > one chance to get out from under the burden of foreign oil. You can
> >bet that
> > > the oil lobby will make sure that never happens.
> >
> >Petroleum products could all be put under a special tax to discourage
> >their use, to encourage alternatives, to finance research, so that a
> >gradual process would evolve. It will not happen.
> >
> > > If we went to an all-hydrogen economy, I would gladly park my M35
> >(mv
> > > content!) and drive my hydrogen-powered SUV anyday. Besides, I think
> >that a
> > > fuel cell would work nicely in an electric duece-n-a-half! You could
> >really
> > > sneak around. Imagine hydrogen coming in your house instead of
> >natural gas.
> > > You could make your own electricity, compress it for automobile
> >fuel, and
> > > drink the pure water that it generates.
> > >
> > > Yup - our government will make sure that it never happens!
> >
> >The largest greenhouse gas is water vapor. I don't know how much is
> >produced in a fuel cell large enough for such uses, but when a couple
> >hundred million are in use, it could be pretty upsetting to some
> >natural balances.
> >
> >But why worry about such details?
> >
> >Dave W.
> >
> >
> >
>
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