From: rertman@ix.netcom.com
Date: Fri Sep 26 2003 - 08:58:00 PDT
Actually, the electric companies are really looking forward to using
hydrogen (H) as a primary fuel and in fuel cells. It'll be a bonanza
for the electric utilities.
Yes, H is the most plentiful element in the universe. And it's
also the least likely to exist in its free or native state. It
combines readily with many other elements to form everything from
water to magma. It takes a lot of energy to separate H from its
compounds...a LOT of energy, that will gleefully be provided by
the electric utilities.
H is also incredibly difficult to store in its native form...as a gas
or as a liquid. Its atoms are so small that they happily migrate
through the material of just about any material used to make a
container.
Yes, folks, the electric utilities are gleefully anticipating a world
where H is a primary fuel. They'll make a bundle!!!!!
H can be provided in loosely bond compounds like natural gas, propane,
etc., which can also power fuel cells. It'll be interesting to see where
it goes.
Now, if you'll excuse me for a few minutes, I have to replace the fuel rods
in the reactors that power my truck and my home. <G>
Dick
Fred Martin wrote:
>
> I watched the development of the fuel cell in the Mother Earth
> News Magazine, it was slow to start...electric companies had their eye
> on it. As soon as they got a good working one going...the electric
> companies quickly bought into it saying it would be good for "off grid
> customers". Don't you think that if hydrogen goes over that they'll buy
> it up and control it...and we'll have more of the same as we have now
> with petroleum? Fred Martin
>
> Dave Winslow (Dad) wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 13:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] 20 years from now
> >
> >
> >
> >>If our leaders were smart, we'd be burning hydrogen.
> >
> >
> > Where would you get all that hydrogen? From oil maybe?
> >
> >
> >>It makes so much sense
> >>that it is almost a given that our government will screw it up. It
> >
> > is our
> >
> >>one chance to get out from under the burden of foreign oil. You can
> >
> > bet that
> >
> >>the oil lobby will make sure that never happens.
> >
> >
> > Petroleum products could all be put under a special tax to discourage
> > their use, to encourage alternatives, to finance research, so that a
> > gradual process would evolve. It will not happen, not becuase of the
> > oil lobby, but because of people who love their SUVs.
> >
> >
> >>If we went to an all-hydrogen economy, I would gladly park my M35
> >
> > (mv
> >
> >>content!) and drive my hydrogen-powered SUV anyday. Besides, I think
> >
> > that a
> >
> >>fuel cell would work nicely in an electric duece-n-a-half! You could
> >
> > really
> >
> >>sneak around. Imagine hydrogen coming in your house instead of
> >
> > natural gas.
> >
> >>You could make your own electricity, compress it for automobile
> >
> > fuel, and
> >
> >>drink the pure water that it generates.
> >
> >
> > The largest greenhouse gas is water vapor. I don't know how much is
> > produced in a fuel cell large enough for such uses, but when a couple
> > hundred million are in use, it could be pretty upsetting to some
> > natural balances.
> >
> > But why worry about such details?
> >
> > Dave W.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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