Re: [MV] Fuel additive vs road tax question

From: Longhunter7 (longhunter7@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sun May 30 2004 - 16:50:43 PDT


Guys!
This is starting to sound like "moonshine"! If you don't tell anybody and
make it your garage, you won't have to pay TAXES on it!

Maybe if we tint it green, it can only be used in Military vehicles?

Longhunter7 out!

> From: rertman@ix.netcom.com
> Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 16:08:22 -0700
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Subject: Re: [MV] Fuel additive vs road tax question
>
> Wayne, the taxes are levied on the fuel producers and retailers, not on the
> end user.
> Of course, they pass them on to us end users. Since folks who make their own
> fuel
> in their garages aren't volume producing corporations and aren't dealers, the
> tax
> isn't levied on them. But keep this under your hat lest the gov't takes
> notice and
> taxes what you make in your garage.
>
> Dick
>
> Wayne Harris wrote:
>>
>> "One of them is, basically, if there's no applicable law, it's not illegal."
>>
>> FYI That may be true but it doesn't apply to the IRS They say if it goes in
>> the fuel tank(for Highway use) it is taxable. Wayne
>>
>>> From: rertman@ix.netcom.com
>>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [MV] Fuel additive vs road tax question
>>> Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 08:44:13 -0700
>>>
>>> Bjorn:
>>>
>>> I don't know the applicable law in VA, but there are some general legal
>>> principles.
>>> One of them is, basically, if there's no applicable law, it's not illegal.
>>>
>>> In general, road taxes are charged on fuel you buy at the pump when you
>>> fill up at your
>>> local filling station. You'll have to check out your state's laws to find
>>> out if taxes
>>> apply to home made fuels like veggie oil. Legally, the taxes are levied on
>>> the producers
>>> and retailers, who then pass them on to the consumers (you and me). I
>>> suspect that, like
>>> most states, VA hasn't yet trued to tax home made fuels. It would be very
>>> difficult to
>>> monitor everyone who makes their own fuel in their garage or barn. Your
>>> veggie oil
>>> isn't dyed and that's what's used to determine whether or not you're using
>>> off-road fuel
>>> in your on-road vehicle.
>>>
>>> You're probably safe using all the veggie oil you want, but I strongly
>>> suggest that you
>>> check out the VA laws.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>> Bjorn Brandstedt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good morning,
>>>>
>>>> Something for the legal experts on the list.
>>>> What percentage of additives can you run in your fuel tank without
>>> getting
>>>> in trouble taxwise?
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently experimenting with adding straight vegetable oil to the
>>> diesel
>>>> in my M35 multifuel. I have been told that a mixture of up to 20% will
>>> work
>>>> just fine (in the summertime, anyway), but at which point does the law
>>> kick
>>>> in. As you know fuel for off-highway use is dyed to catch cheeters.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody know of a case(s) where users of homemade biodiesel have
>>> been
>>>> fined for not paying a road tax? What about straight vegetable oil? When
>>> is
>>>> it no longer a non taxable additive?
>>>>
>>>> My current mixture is 10% veggie oil and 90% diesel....
>>>>
>>>> Bjorn,
>>>> MVPA19212
>>>> Meadows of Dan, Virginia
>>
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