RE: [MV] M-416 trailers and CUCVs

From: Glenn Shaw (mpmutt@mtaofnj.us)
Date: Sat Aug 14 2004 - 11:51:55 PDT


Hi
Before you get into this project to deep you need to ask some questions
re. your truck. Remember the M1009 as it is designed is very robust and
capable even in desert heat conditions. We had many of these things in
the 90-91 Desert Storm pulling small M416 (and captured Soviet built GAZ
equiv) trailers all over the desert in Iraq and Kuwait in the 125 degree
summer heat with no problems. That doesn't mean that issues don't come
up just like with any other trucks. If the original cooling system is
ALL performing as designed then the truck will work fine under normal
towing loads and temperatures. If you have fan clutch problems,
radiator blockages, thermostat problems, etc you will see high
transmission temps and can plan on transmission damage. If you want to
see what your 3L80 Hydramatic is doing then by all means throw on a
gauge. That will tell all. If you want to give your truck some
insurance put on an external cooler, especially if you are towing a
trailer larger than the M416 or M101. The biggest thing is keep your
cooling system serviced and operating as designed and you will have no
problems in normal service. You stated that you had your radiator
serviced so it should be AOK.

Glenn
M1009's
MVPA MTANJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cooney [mailto:triumphtrash13@eircom.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:53 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] M-416 trailers and CUCVs

Jim,

OK. So I should upgrade the Transmission cooling system;

What Transmission Cooler Kit do you recommend for the CUCV?

I've recently got my Radiator completely overhauled;

Could I use a new Tranny cooling system in conjunction with the original
system? If not - why not? If I were to dispense with the original
tranny cooling system can I get a full size rad to replace the combined
rad that's in my truck? Auto trans is the exception over here and not
the rule so apologies if the questions seem naive!

Can you get Tranny Temperature gauges? Would it be a good Idea to remove
the viscous fan and install a Kenlowe Electric Fan kit for efficiency
and economy?

Regards,

Jim........in Ireland
M1008 A1 CUCV

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Shanks" <n1vbn@arrl.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] M-416 trailers and CUCVs

> Dean on advice. Number one reason why the thm-400 3 speed transmission

> fails is 99% excessive heat related. If you have 6.2-6.5 Diesel
> powered M-1009/M1028 ETC. install the largest separate transmission
> cooler that
you
> can install. Do not run the tranny cooling line through the factory
> cooler built into the radiator. It could be plugged or restrict fluid
> flow and still allow your tranny to overheat.
> If you gents running CUCV's haven't replaced your radiators
> you should seriously consider doing so. Makes a massive difference is
> how cool the engine runs. Remember heat is the ENEMY!!!
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> At 09:18 AM 8/13/2004, Scott Christ wrote:
> >Hey List: When towing with the M1009 I would suggest
> >the use of a Auxiliry Trans Cooler and Trans temp
> >gauge
> >Save yourself a big expense down the road. Scott
> >--- Ida Heath <spike@defuniak.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't know what "the best thing" means but I can't
> > > see a thing in the
> > > world wrong with towing a trailer with one of those vehicles.
> > > I've seen it being done for years.
> > >
> > > Sonny
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: mark baxter <alleywayguns@bacavalley.com>
> > > To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> > > <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:37 AM
> > > Subject: [MV] M-416 trailers and CUCVs
> > >
> > >
> > > > Folks
> > > > I have heard from alot of sources that pulling a
> > > trailer, even a light
> > > one,
> > > > is not the best thing for a M-1009 CUCV Blazer.
> > > > Is the older M-416 1/4 ton trailers a bit of a
> > > strain on these trucks?
> > > > Mark M-886 and M-1009
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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