Re: [MV] [MVlist] great gilbert washout-Red Ball-death of mv shows

From: Thomas M McHugh (tmmchugh@msn.com)
Date: Tue Sep 21 2004 - 04:40:36 PDT


Jim,

Well said. That is why we elected you & will re-elect you again in the
future.

Tom McHugh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Gilmore" <jgilmore@ptd.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] [MVlist] great gilbert washout-Red Ball-death of mv shows

>
> Jeff wrote,
>
> >A little hard on the guy for a club officer don't you
> >think? I heard some complaining but "whine" seems a bit
> >harsh and you didn't even address his suggestion/question.
>
> Huh?........
>
> A little harsh?
>
> He basically stated that the show was terrible just because his vendor
wasn't there........
>
> Should I cradle him in my arms and tell him things will get
better?..........
>
> Hey, I don't think Richard needs this..........he just was disappointed
that his vendor was not waiting for him..........a little "tough Love" might
help him see that branding the entire show as bad just because of one vendor
disappointed him is wrong. I'm sure that Richard is tough enough to take
some constructive criticism.
>
> >Sounds like it was a typical US show: an assortment of the
> >SOS w/ a couple pieces of armour and a half empty, muddy
> >vendor field.
>
> Jeeze............what a crock of.........well we all know........
>
> Were you there? If not, where do you get off spouting such drivel?
"typical US show?" "muddy vendor field" ........... Where was YOUR "piece
of Armor"?????
>
> Where was your vehicle? Do you think that Pat Lombardi just drove his
M-114 over there? Do you think that it was that easy? Sven Johnson brought
his half track on the back of his WW II Marmon Herrington cab over all the
way to Gilbert from New Jersey. Bob Rubino brought his award winning M-29
Weasel in the back of his CCKW............
>
> "A typical US show?" What the hell do you mean? Last year we had
about 50 to 60 military vehicles
> (or more) there...........
>
> Oh yes, I've been to the shows in the UK, France, Belgium and other
shows...........and yes, Beltring is bigger.......
>
> So what?
>
>
>
> > A true collector and published
> >historian/author relates his experience, asks a question
> >and you attack him.
>
> No, you should read his post again.............he berates the show
just because his vendor left before he got there.........that's no reason to
bad mouth the vendors that did indeed stay.....Hell, Elder Santos was in a
wheel chair from his stroke and he braved the weather to set up and sell
some of his MV "treasures".......
>
> > It's true he has a beef with the vendor
> >directly but maybe the club could do more to make bad
> >weather situations better.
>
> Huh? Are you on drugs?........ Oh , I'm sorry........I guess we
(the Red Ball military Transport) should have prayed to God that he might
grant us good weather for our show...............I think he might be a bit
too busy watching over our servicemen in Iraq or Afghanistan to bother with
our little problems....
>
>
> >In the days of cheap cell
> >phones, how about a way to communicate with the
> >regestration tent to see if a vendor has checked in or out?
>
> Wow, now you want each and every vendor to let us know each and every
move that they make.......
>
> Hey, we're not their mothers.......they do what they want to
do.......it's a free country......for now......
>
>
> >Come on Jim, before you were elected I thought you were a
> >"man of the people." Now I see you're towing the company
> >line.
>
>
> Ah, yes.........another crock............."Towing the company
line?".........what line is that? Speak up please..........
>
> Or maybe it's that I speak the truth........and stick up for those of us
that were there, those who brought their vehicles even though a Hurricane
was predicted...........who left their vehicles out in the torrential
rains........just so those that did brave the weather would have something
to see.........and buy....People like Pat Lombardi (M-114), Tom McHugh
(m-38A1), Vinnie 5 ton wrecker), Jim Siglin (CCKW, WC 12 , MB), Eric Kalsako
(CCKW), Shawn Kling (CCKW) , Bob Rubino (CCKW, M-29), Sven Johnson (Diamond
T wrecker, Marmon Herrington cab over w/trailer, !/2 track, WC-18 ambulance)
George Caron (M-37, M-38) , John Smachagsh (Indian 741, Weldbike, 1941
Zundapp) , John Headley (3/4 ton Dodge carryall, 3/4 ton command car and
many, many,more that I can't name right now............
>
> Those are "the people"........those are the ones that I stick up
for............
>
>
> So If you weren't there.........quit your whining..............
>
>
> Jim Gilmore
>
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