From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Sun Oct 17 2004 - 15:30:12 PDT
Jim,
Where are those scary tools used for removing glowplugs sold. I would
rather have one and not need it than I would to need it and not have it.
Who knows, I may decide to get it out and wave it around every once in a
while, and say "Okay you sonsab*&^%*$#^%&* I may put this on ya"
Sonny
----- Original Message -----
From: James Shanks <n1vbn@arrl.net>
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] 6.2 l glow plug removal tools
>
> Yes Ron,
>
> I was loaned an OTC glow plug removal tool brand new in the box
> with directions yet!! What a concept! I waved it at the engine before I
> started to remove them and wonder of wonders, that new tool sure did the
> job just fine...scared the living daylights out of the old glow plugs so
> bad they all came out without so much as grumble. A couple to be sure
> thought about complaining but came out easy as could be in the end. Now I
> need to replace the glow plug controller I screwed up.
>
> Think your bad Ron? I took a perfectly running glow plug
> controller and made it so it still lights the light the proper time but
> won't even think of closing the glow plug relay to feed juice to the glow
> plugs so I have to do it manually.
>
> HINT!!!!
>
> An easier way to start manual glow plug engines when cold
>
> 1. Crank engine over BEFORE pressing the glow plug button
for
> 5 or 6 seconds then leave key on and press glow plug on for 4 or 5 seconds
> and immediately engage the starter motor. It works the cookies on
> mine...better to heat up a fuel air mixture instead of cold air
only...warm
> fuel in the cylinder starts lots easier than cold fuel in the injection
> fuel lines. Oh yeah make sure you tromp on accelerator to set the high
idle
> before engaging starter.
>
>
>
> By the way .....the OTC glow plug removal tool was returned a
> Virgin. Still hasn't been used to date but it's great at scaring em..
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> At 12:54 AM 10/17/2004, Michael Howell, DO wrote:
> >I was going through old email because I need to replace some of my glow
> >plugs. I was wondering what you thought of the snap on tool when it came
> >in? How did you get the rest of the plugs out?
> >
> >Mike
> >Tishomingo, MS
> >M1010
> >M1009
> >
> >Ron wrote:
> >
> >> ALL my glow plugs are toast due to a failed glow plug relay. The
relay
> >>was an aftermarket type, rated for 12 VDC. It could not handle 15, or
maybe
> >>18 VDC and cooked in the ON mode.
> >> Food for thought. When you have a glow plug that fails, the voltage
> >>available to the other 7 goes up by 1/8 or 1.5 volts. So with 8 working
> >>plugs getting 12 volts, an 8 second pre heat with a manual push button
works
> >>fine. But loose one and the other 7 are now seeing 13.5 and that 8
second
> >>pre heat is too much, so another one fails. Now the other 6 are seeing
15
> >>volts, so 6 seconds are deadly, so another one fails and we repeat the
> >>sequence, etc., etc, etc. So what is cheaper, a new glow plug controller
> >>card that SENSES the preheat temperature and cycles the remaining plugs
with
> >>in limits, or spending a couple of hundred dollars on tools and a bunch
of
> >>hours disassembling the truck and cursing the designers and GM and
anyone
> >>else involved in the piss poor design of this system because the system
was
> >>bypassed with a manual push button? Maybe if you use the push button
method,
> >>you should install an indicator light hooked onto the glow plug side of
the
> >>relay to tell you your glow plugs are cooking after you release the push
> >>button cause the relay has failed in the "ON" mode and it's already too
late
> >>to save the plugs AND a voltmeter so you can tell when you have cooked a
> >>plug cause of an extra chipmunk or two.
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, back at the engine compartment...
> >>
> >> Anyone used the Owens Export glow plug removal tool and have any
> >>opinions?
> >>
> >> How about the Snap On glow plug socket for the 6.2l?
> >>
> >> TOOL REVIEW:
> >> After playing with the OTC 6005 GPR Tool today, I can say it is a
clever
> >>idea if your mushroomed glow plugs are in an engine that is out of the
> >>truck, mounted on an engine stand with the exhaust manifolds removed. If
> >>not, you can pass on it.
> >> A tool that worked pretty good on 3 mushroomed plugs was a GM door
trim
> >>removal tool. It looks like a big tack puller and fit below the threaded
> >>section of the head of the glow plug and over the shaft of the glow plug
> >>once the threads cleared the block. Using an air ratchet and 3/8 deep
socket
> >>my friend was able to apply leverage against the plug while spinning it
and
> >>the damaged plugs slowly 'screwed' themselves out.
> >> The other 5 will have to await the arrival of the Owens and Snap On
> >>tools.
> >> Anyone got any other methods, short of C4, that have worked?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> James Shanks
> n1vbn@arrl.net
> 1985 M1009
> 1998 IMZ 8.103
> 1984 H-D FLHT-C
>
>
>
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