From: Jon Shoop (shoop19@brick.net)
Date: Fri Oct 29 2004 - 19:27:40 PDT
Excellent story Nige.....
We have a guy in our 14th Armored unit that too was there at Dien Bien Phu,
a German, ex Hitler Youth in WWII that joined up. He tells many stories
about his cadre officers and such that he served with. Explained that the
Russian film makers that accompanied the Viet Min had chained what remained
of the French M24 Tanks together so one could tow the others with the decks
covered by Viet Min waving flags past the cameramen for propaganda use.
He insists they did not surrender, rather they ceased fire.......he also
tells that most the Vietnamese, loyal to the French were executed.
He wrote a book about his experiences that I will post title too when I can
find it.....
Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Hay -MILWEB" <Nigel@milweb.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] The Battle of Algiers now Dien Bien Phu
>
> Without wishing you to think I have only an interest in French films, I
> would also commend to you the 1990s film Dien Bien Phu about the legion's
> defeat in 1954 has some excellent vehicle footage, its a very good
account
> of how the Legion was besieged for months and then most marched into
> captivity afer taking huge losses. The contempory vehicles used in the
> lavish set will interest many on this list. And its colour and is more a
> drama than the battle of Algiers. Its available in Enhglish too..... When
I
> lived in Canterbury, I used to know a Polish chap , a jewish fellow whose
> family were wiped out during WW2. He dropped with the Polish at Arnhem and
> after the war joined th foriegn legion and was captured at Dien Bien Phu,
> but escaped. How did i meet him? I went to my yard one morning to find
what
> i thought was a tramp asleep in the back of my GMC CCKW, turned out
Charlie
> "Pork Roll" ( never could pronounce his name) had a skinfull in a pub up
the
> lane and never made it home. He awoke to tell me that he had slept many
> nights in theback of a Jimmy and then started to tell me his life story.
> As an aside, my hairdresser ( stylist shurely) here in France it turns
out
> was a soldier who took part in the battle for Algiers. He is a big fan of
> the Dodge 6X6 which they used with oversize tryes. He was a regular
soldier
> not a paratrooper.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adams-Graf, John [mailto:grafj@krause.com]
> Sent: 29 November 2004 15:11
> To: Nigel Hay -MILWEB; Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [MV] The Battle of Algiers
>
>
> Nigel:
> Thank you so much for the info! Those of us who are "States-bound" would
> probably never have known that this classic was available. This is a great
> opportunity to see a lot of very rare vehicles in action. I am off to
eBay
> and then to Amazon to see if I can snag a copy. Thanks again for the tip.
> It is what makes this list so useful!
> John A-G
> Iola, Wisconsin USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> Behalf Of Nigel Hay -MILWEB
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:47 AM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: [MV] The Battle of Algiers
>
>
> Folks,treat yourseves (or ask for it for Christmas) to a copy of this
> classic 1960's film. Now out re-released DVD. Its in a genre of its own
> about how the French retaliated to the Algerian terorists who sought to
> destroy French colonialisation in Algeria. There is a joyful moment in a
> scene where the Legion paras are breaking the general strike in Algiers by
> forcing the shops to open, this includes using a Dodge 6x6 to pull the
> shutters off the shops and a legionairre is seen "skiing " up the street
on
> the shutter behind the Dodge..... There are some good scenes with vehicles
> to interest us all, including BDRM armoured cars, lots of jeeps, Dodges
etc
> but also the early Renault 4x4 trucks, SUMBS, Berliets and a variety of
> quasi military vehicles. Accurately of course as there were many in North
> Africa, many of the FLA terrorists are using German MP40's. This was
filmed
> just after the French gave Algeria its independence so the vehicles etc
are
> spot on.
> Its film noire at its best. The Observer (a UK newspaper for the thinking
> man)rates it as one of the best films of all time.
> I would agree.
>
>
> Go about your lawful.
>
> NIGE
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> Behalf Of m35products
> Sent: 28 November 2004 23:43
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] [armyradios] Group Bidding
>
>
> Yeah, now that you mention it, where has "Osama been Lately?" The
election
> is over, so I guess he's closed down his TV studio for another 4 years.
>
> apb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor@quik.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] [armyradios] Group Bidding
>
>
> > ABC Nightly news within the last several days, plus ongoing
congressional
> > investigations. Of course you will consider that to be a lie, as usual.
> >
> > .BTW, where are the WMDs and Osama Bin Gone?
> >
> > -John
> >
> > Sonny Heath wrote:
> >
> > > Please furnish proof that Haliburton has lost Millions.
> > > When did this happen and were they found guilty?
> > >
> > > Sonny
> >
> >
> >
> >
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