RE: [MV] Diesel engine woes, M1009 timing chain?

From: Stu Ellis (stuinnh@mvnut.us)
Date: Tue Nov 23 2004 - 09:28:38 PST


I think they all sound like that. So does mine. It only had 38,000 miles
when I got it. It now has 48,000.

              "Stu"
Southern New Hampshire, USA
      "Live Free Or Die"
 
MVPA #14790
1967 M151A1 Jeep
1964 M416 Trailer
1986 M1009 Blazer

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From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On Behalf
Of Bruce C. Beattie
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel engine woes, M1009 timing chain?
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Hi Caleb,
    I have an M1008 and I have been hearing this noise at idle that
 sounds like something
clanking around, almost like a bad bearing. I don't think it is any of
the belt driven stuff,
so I am beginning to suspect the timing chain too. Supposedly the truck
only had 15k on it when
I got it, and it shows about 34k now. By in large it runs pretty good,
but this noise is driving me crazy.
Bruce MVPA 23824

Caleb Pal - MilVeh wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>Haven't posted here in a while. I have a couple projects going on right
now.
>
>Il'l start with the M1009. 84 M1009, 75,000 miles, runs great, no smoke,
>sometimes a tad hard to start, usually just me not manually glowing it long
>enough. What I have heard ever since I have gotten the truck just about a
>year ago, is a noise coming from the front of the engine when idling. I
will
>be about 5 feet in front of the truck, and even further away, I can hear a
>noise, its like ball bearings rolling around in a pot. like a clicking
>noise, like the fan is hitting something, but its not. I pop the hood and
>listen, but the engine noise is too much to hear it. I started up the fire
>departments M1008 with 72k miles on it (I think) and it doesn't have the
>noise. Is it possible it could be the timing chain on the M1009 making this
>noise? I know average replacement is about 100k miles, but I don't know if
>the chain had a bit of slap, if it could make such a noise. I had the oil
>pan off a month ago, and I could feel the tension on the chain. I can't
>remeber now, but one side had quite a bit of slack on it, and the other
side
>was tensioned, but not totally tight from what I could tell from the
bottom.
>I didn't think to do a full inspection on it then, which wasn't too bright.
>So any ideas about that sound and what could cause it. I know its not that
>alternators, doubt the PS pump, but not toally sure.
>
>Second is the vegetable oil conversion. The 4cylinder diesel engine is off
>of a Carrier Transicold cooling unit. The engine was made in 1980, in the
>UK. Its a inline 4 perkins 4.108, or 4108. The problem with it is that it
>has sat for about 8-10 years. Last date on the oil filters and fuel filters
>were 91. I got it running, and it ran like hell, rough at WOT. I took the
>injectors out and cleaned them, basically just cleaned stuff off the tips.
>It runs ok now, smokes a bit at idle, and puffs a good amount of smoke,
>like when an injector is misfiring or something, about every 3-8 seconds.
At
>WOT it smokes quite a bit more, and misses and puffs a bit of smoke, about
>every 2-5 seconds. I pulled all the injectors out, hooked an injector to
one
>of the lines, and turned the engine over with the starter. It shoots fuel
>about 4-8 inches, as a pretty straight and even stream, and about 12-14
>inches out it starts to atomize and go into a mist. I know it doesnt have a
>foot of space to atomize in the engine, so is the pop off pressure too low
>and its not turing into a mist soon enough, and dumping too much fuel in,
>hence the smoke? I tried all of the injectors, let them shoot for 2-3
times,
>and they all preformed the same. Its kind of a low budget project, and I
>don't feel like dropping $40-$70 each into new injectors. I know if I take
>the return line rail off the toppof the all, there is a allen head in
there,
>is this the pop off pressure adjustment? The injectors are flat on the end,
>with a little tiny tip sticking out in the middle. Any ideas for this is
>greatly appriciated, I will try and grab some pictures if anyone is
>interested.
>
>Last, is my pictures project. I have pictures of my M1009, and soon to have
>pictures of my M211 (soon to be FS) and the fire departments M35A2 and
>M1008, and M107A2? (I think, water buffalo). If interested, visit the site
>at http://pictures.defcon-3.net
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Caleb
>
>84 M1009
>52 XM211
>
>
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