From: Thomas M McHugh (tmmchugh@msn.com)
Date: Fri Dec 10 2004 - 20:20:57 PST
If the item was actually mailed, you can file a complaint directly to the
Postal Inspection Service.
Mailing an empty Parcel is Mail Fraud. Notify the Postal Inspection
Service.
Go to your local PO & ask the Postmaster to call the Inspectors. They
have access to the Inspectors & should help you file a complaint.
Just say "MAIL FRAUD" often & loudly.
Tom McHugh, NJ
Postmaster Retired
1952 M38A1
M-416 Trailer
MVPA, MTA
----- Original Message -----
From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] ebay....more tricks.
> Try a report with the Postal Police. They have federal jurisdiction.
>
> apb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] ebay....more tricks.
>
>
>> When they said "police" I don't think they meant city police as they
>> probably wouldn't know whether you lived in a city or not. Why didn't
>> you
>> call the County Sheriff to do a report?
>>
>> You really should get to know who enforces the law around you as you may
>> need them one o these days.
>>
>> Sonny
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill" <bill@welovenh.com>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 4:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MV] ebay....more tricks.
>>
>>
>> > MV related.
>> >
>> > I bought a part for my MV through ebay. Used PayPal to pay the buyer.
>> > The package showed up empty. I do not know whether the seller tried to
>> > screw me or the contents was lost by the PO. Regardless the seller will
>> > not do anything and the Post Office says they are not responsible for
>> > the sellers mispackaging of the product. (No contents were damaged as
>> > there were no contents)
>> >
>> > I then tried to file a claim under PayPal (an Ebay subsidiary) buyer
>> > protection...using the the catagory that the "package received - no
>> > contents". After 20 days this was PayPals reply.
>> >
>> > (contact info removed to protect the guilty)
>> >
>> >
>>
> ****************************************************************************
>> *******
>> >
>> > Transaction Date: Oct. xx, 2004 Transaction Amount: -$xxx.xx USD Case
>> > Number: xxxxxxxxxx Seller's Name: ?????????? Seller's Email:
>> >
>> > In order to continue this investigation, a police report must be filed
>> > with your local police authority and a copy of that report must be
>> > faxed
>> > to PayPal within 10 calendar days.
>> >
>> > If a police report is not received, the investigation will end and the
>> > claim will be closed.
>> >
>> > Use the link below for the fax number and the bar-coded fax cover
>> > sheet.
>> > You may need to log in before accessing the following page:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> > Thank you for your cooperation.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Protection Services Department
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
> ****************************************************************************
>> *********
>> >
>> > Huh????? I called a local Police Officer in town that I know and
>> > explained the situation. He told me that they would not do a Police
>> > report as the crime did not occur in town.
>> >
>> >
>> > So PayPal/Ebay has now found a new way to get out of covering stuff
>> > under their "Buyer Protection" plan.
>> >
>> > Just figured I pass this along to others so they don't get equally
>> > screwed buying MV parts.
>> >
>> > Any Lawyers out there need Class action work?
>> >
>> >
>> > everette wrote:
>> > > Exactly - Ebay cares nothing about the buyer - until he refuses to
> pay,
>> even
>> > > if seller is fradulent
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Everette
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Joe Shannon" <fordpart@bellsouth.net>
>> > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Everyone needs to reread the "safety" rules of Ebay because they
>> > > have changed considerably in their own favor since I started blowing
>> > > money there.
>> > >
>> > > Safe Harbor is just another way for them to take your money.
>> > >
>> > > Ebay has told me that in the new rules a "powerseller" does not
> have
>> > > to be honest and they will not do anything to correct them,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > ..."A good plan executed violently today is better than a perfect plan
>> > executed at some indefinite time in the future. General George S.
>> > Patton, Jr."
>> >
>> > Any ship can be a minesweeper . . . . once.
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