From: Bjorn Brandstedt (super_deuce@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Dec 15 2004 - 02:42:16 PST
I have seen both, but Flug-Abwehr-Kanone makes more sense since Flugzeug
means aircraft. Flieger is more like "flyer" and fliegen is "flying".
Bjorn
>From: "Steve Grammont" <islander@midmaine.com>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Subject: Re: [MV] flak--All you wanted to know
>Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:17:48 -0500
>
>Hi Bruce,
>
>Hmmm... I don't know what source you used, but that's not what I'm
>familiar with. So I just checked some sources including a 1944 German/
>English Military Dictionary (US War Department) along with a couple of
>other sources including Hogg's book on German artillery. Even checked an
>online translator. All state Flak = "Flugabwehrkanone" and not
>"Fliegerabwehrkanone".
>
>The confusion is understandable as the Germans do use "Flieger" for other
>air defense related terms, including the generic "Anti-Aircraft Defense"
>("Fliegerabwehr"). Just to confuse things, they also call Anti-Aircraft
>Defense "Flugabwehr" :-) But for the weapons themselves, there is
>consistent use of "Flug" as the prefix. Others in the dictionary are
>Flugabwehrgerät, Flugabwehrmaschinengewehr, Flugabwehrmaschinenwaffen,
>Flugabwehrmaschinegewehr, and Flugabwehrmaschinenkanone.
>
>Steve
>
> >Main Entry: flak Pronunciation Guide
> >Variant(s): also flack \flak\
> >Function: noun
> >Inflected Form(s): plural flak
> >Etymology: German flak, from fliegerabwehrkanone antiaircraft gun, from
> >fliegerabwehr defense against air attack (from flieger aviator -- from
> >fliegen to fly, from Old High German fliogan -- + abwehr defense, from
> >abwehren to ward off, from ab off, away -- from Old High German aba -- +
> >wehren to restrain, forbid, from Old High German werren to defend) +
> >kanone cannon, from Italian cannone -- more at FLY, OF, WEIR, CANNON
> >1 : antiaircraft guns <flak battery> <flak ship>
> >2 : the bursting shells fired from flak <despite heavy flak damage made
> >a safe landing>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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