Imitation firearms and Calif. laws

From: Darrell Ramsell (daram@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Jan 11 2005 - 01:05:40 PST


(3) For use in a certified or regulated athletic event or competition.

I agree this is very vague. I always wondered who did the certifications
and regulations? I take it as any official organizations that has it's own
rules and regulation.

For those of you who want to know more about California laws in regards to
imitation fire arms here are two main links.

The primary law regulating this is Penal Code 417.2
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/99-00/bill/asm/ab_2051-2100/ab_2053_bill_20000901_chaptered.html

Another relating law that expanded on this is SB 1858
http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/imit.htm
The primary intention of this law was to allow law enforcement to take a way
toy guns that were in appropriately displayed in public.

Over all I wouldn't be too concerned about law enforcement taking away your
replica fire arms as long as you're not displaying them in a menacing
manner.

I play with airsoft guns on a monthly basis and have never had any problems.
We even play with these on National Forest and BLM land. Of course we
always notify the local Rangers or BLM office in advance of our presence and
have had no problems it the 8 years I have been doing this.

(For those of you who don't know what an airsoft gun is. They are air or
gas powered BB guns designed to be use against other people in a
recreational manner like paint ball. Just about all of them look just like
real firearms. Here is a picture of one that I have.
http://ImageEvent.com/wharris19/m249 Thanks again Wayne!)

On top of this, I think California has more airsoft stores than any other
state in the U.S.

So as long as you use and display them in a responsible manner, there should
be no problem. However, I usually carry a copy of the law just in case you
run into that one officer who isn't well informed.

Darrell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mil-Veh Co." <milveh@sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Cal. 50 and Calif. laws

> Darrell, do you see where it's ok to have the replica
> on your MV... if your club is having military vehicle
> show?
>
> Here are a couple of not-so-briliant ideas to qualify
> to display your ol replica, non-firing piece of
> plastic/metal that ONLY looks like a gun at 30 feet...
> without being thrown into the gulag.
>
> 1. Maybe we should include coed wrestling or hammer
> throwing in order to qualify as an athletic event?
>
> (Wondering what school in Calif. is going to want a
> weapons display? Reform school? My grandson can't
> even draw a picture of a gun at his public school or
> he is suspended.)
>
> 2. I got it, maybe if we had air-raid drills with our
> MV events we could qualify? Now there's a civil
> defense activity! (Anybody got an air raid siren? lol
> )]
>
> ANYBODY ELSE GOT AN IDEA HOW TO BE LEGAL IN CALIF?
>
>
>
>
> --- Darrell Ramsell <daram@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> There are exemptions to this.
>>
>> (1) Solely for export in interstate or foreign
>> commerce.
>>
>> (2) Solely for lawful use in theatrical
>> productions, including motion
>> pictures, television, and stage productions.
>>
>> (3) For use in a certified or regulated
>> athletic event or competition.
>>
>> (4) For use in military or civil defense
>> activities.
>>
>> (5) For public display authorized by public or
>> private schools.
>>
>
>
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