RE: [MV] MV's not allowed to participate in the Veteran's Day events locally

From: Henry J. Fackovec (HFackovec@EasternEMS.com)
Date: Wed May 18 2005 - 21:43:31 PDT


Hi Timmy:

I prefer to voice my opinions and displeasure with your attitude and
actions in public: the sunshine of many readers scrutiny helps to bring
truth and expose shame. I am often exposed by the masses as being wrong,
but I learn from it.

I seriously doubt that voicing my opinions to you in private would have
brought more than a snotty and demeaning note in response (as they have
in the past). Secrecy is one more trait of despotic regimes...

In reality does your event affect me? ...No, Not in the least. Does it
bother me that your messianic tendencies offend people in the hobby? A
bit. Does it offend me that you and your friends dress up in uniforms
that you did not earn the right to wear? YES, to the max. My father is a
WWII vet, (as were 7 of my uncles spread across the 5 services), and I
can tell you from long discussions gathering oral histories with him and
members of his VFW post, that those uniforms were earned with sweat,
blood and tears, something that most of you, thankfully will never
know...

Good luck, God bless (Wait, Missouri Univ is a public school, can I say
"God" in an email? I have such problems with this politically correct
stuff.), have fun with your event next year. Just try to think who *YOU*
are offending.

BTW: Love the pix that you guys posted on the web last week.

HJ Fackovec
BC-FDNY (ret)
ChOps, CTS, VP, and DICO Eastern EMS, Inc.
SATURN Officer
COO EMR, INC
And more other annoying and confusing acronyms that I care to list

-----Original Message-----
From: Scherrer, Tim [mailto:scherrert@missouri.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Henry J. Fackovec; mil-veh@mil-veh.org
Subject: RE: [MV] MV's not allowed to participate in the Veteran's Day
events locally

If you have an issue with my event, or the way my event is ran I suggest
you contact me directly and talk about it....nazi regime are some pretty
strong words.

As for the local Memorial Day event, it is totally her event but it is
also completely inconsistent in how it is ran...they were willing to
have my WWII vehicles in the parade but my then wife couldn't ride in
them, nor could I wear my period uniform with it...but could wear my
modern uniform.

Tim A. Scherrer
MAJ, MI, USAR
Assistant Professor of Military Science
University of Missouri-Columbia
573-882-0640, fax 0461

-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
Behalf Of Henry J. Fackovec
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:37 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] MV's not allowed to participate in the Veteran's Day
events locally

That whole wine country tour seems to be run by some sort of "Nazi"
regime. The chap "Tim" who cries foul when a parade committee does not
want his ilk seems to be throwing stones in a glass quonset hut.

Given the "convoy" is driving on public roads, I think that next year
people who are being excluded should just join in the tour. (Other than
stops on private property.) I think it would be a hoot to show the
public the real fun and history of Military Vehicles. Isn't freedom what
the real heroes of WWII fought for? (Not these wannabes who play dress
up and steal others glory, while claiming to be "educating" the public).

Hankie
(Doesn't have his panties in a bunch, just doesn't like holier then thou
people)

-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
Behalf Of Joe Shannon
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:43 AM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] MV's not allowed to participate in the Veteran's Day
events locally

    This situation seems a little familiar to me, Oh yes, it reminds me
of an email that myself and a friend of mine received when we offered
our M-series wreckers and lowboy to go along with the first WW2 Convoy
through the Missouri Wine Country. We were told not to attend. Since
then Mr. Hobbs who portrays General MacArthur has asked me why I don't
go and I have not had the heart to tell him we were forbidden to go.

   I guess Ford Excursions and red GMC 18-wheelers are true (i.e.:
WWII-era) military vehicles, whereas a 1952 military wrecker would
detract from the theme.

Scherrer, Tim wrote:

>We here in Columbia, MO have the oddest Veteran's Day committee who
puts
>on the local airshow and parade. They will not permit reenactors or
>people from the MVPA or other Mil vehicle groups participate in the
>parade, but permit classic cars in the events.
>
>The Santa Fe MVPA chapter asked several times to be permitted to
display
>in the airshow grounds and were consistently told there was no room for
>them at the event. During the event there was a ton of open ramp, and
>the classic car club had their cars there.....you tell me what the
>disconnect is there because we are clueless other than the organizer
>doesn't like us.
>
>They recently got sued by peace groups for their exclusionary tactics
>with their events, and I hate to say that I am just about on their side
>the way we reenactors and MV owners have been treated by the committee.
>I've even had members of the organizing committee approach me at events
>wanting my reenacting group at their event because we are a "perfect
>fit" for it, only to tell them their committee chief won't allow us for
>her own reasons.
>
>What a strange relationship and we are hoping in time someone with a
>little more common sense will run this event. As for now, we support
>events everywhere but here that weekend.
>
>Tim A. Scherrer
>
>
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