Re: [MV] Honor and respect for historic vehicles

From: Steve & Jeannie Keith (cckw@comcast.net)
Date: Fri May 20 2005 - 09:50:55 PDT


HMV is a term I coined and got the MVPA to start using among others.

It has nothing to do with the age. It has EVERYTHING to do with people
and forces that would take away our right to own and/or use them.

By associating History with these vehicles you put the people who would
want to destroy/confiscate etc them into the category of people who do not
learn from history or better yet, Book Burners!

Mark my words: The day will come when there will be tremendous pressure
to eliminate these war glorifying, polluting, danger to everyone on the
highway
menaces from the road or even possession.

Also by NOT using the term 'Antique' you can include HUMVEEs too which
are also important to save from the crusher (government or civy)

We are ALL in this together and must forsee dangers and work to head them
off before we are put onto the defensive like the NRA and guns are a lot in
the
US of A

Steve AKA Dr Deuce

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Hay MILWEB" <nigel@milweb.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Honor and respect for historic vehicles

> So when on a timeline does a Military Vehicle actually become a Historic
> Military Vehicle ? Is a late 1990s Humvee historic, current or just plain
> privately owned? How do we decide or more importantly how do our peers and
> observers decide?
>
> NIGE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> Behalf Of Steve & Jeannie Keith
> Sent: 20 May 2005 18:31
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] Honor and respect for history
>
>
> I have a number of Army type HMVs and they are all labeled as
> 1A 291E (1st Army 291st Combat Engineers) in honor of what
> these brave men did at the Battle of the Buldge (they stayed behind
> to blow up bridges when everyone else was running to Antwerp).
> In addition, they built the longest M2 Treadway bridge at Remargen
> over the Rhine when the Germans were trying everything to stop
> them. I consider it an honor to have hmy HMVs so labeled.
>
> Recently, I talked with Col David Pergin who headed the 291st at
> that time and he was pleased that I had done so. Made it all worthwile....
>
> To throw a little fuel on the fire:
>
> The reasons I collect WW2 HMVs:
>
> No problem going on bases and getting cornfused with current
> Can wear period clothing and not worry about getting cornfused with
> current
> No visits by CID
> No Form 97's to worry about
> Part of The Greatest Generation
> Part of The Good War
> I can tell some history about the Good War at displays
> Can represent WW2, Korea, or VN early
> Can go to the auto parts store to buy parts
> Not beholding to HMV parts vendors
> Etc
>
>
> Steve AKA Dr Deuce
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scherrer, Tim" <scherrert@missouri.edu>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Honor and respect for history
>
>
> The question for me is this: are you wearing it respectfully and would
> the vets be pleased with it, or not.
>
> We had the opportunity to meet the WWII company commander of the unit we
> reenact at Jefferson barracks. He drove up to meet us. He is simply
> touched and honored to see people remembering him and his guys, and we
> have his full blessing as a group. It's great to have these living
> references, and we could never hope to live vicariously what they lived.
> All we can do is keep their memory alive.
>
> Tim A. Scherrer
> MAJ, MI, USAR
> Assistant Professor of Military Science
> University of Missouri-Columbia
> 573-882-0640, fax 0461
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
> Behalf Of Bobby Joe Pendleton II
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:03 AM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] Honor and respect for history
>
> Sometimes I wear period correct clothes with the unit patches and
> insignias when we do shows and parades. I was never in the military but
> I
> have a long line of family members who was ,dating back to the Crusades.
>
> Why would I NOT have the right to wear a uniform, period correct or not?
> The
> right to wear what I want was given to me by the vets who fought and
> sometimes died. I don't think anyone in their right mind would think I
> was
> a Korean war or Vietnam Vet, nor do I claim to be.. If we don't have the
>
> right to wear them, then maybe we don't have the right to own the same
> vehicles.
>
>
> Southern by the grace of God
> "I...Shall Remain Confederate"
>
>
>
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