Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake

From: m35products (m35prod@optonline.net)
Date: Tue Aug 02 2005 - 14:55:08 PDT


I didn't bring it up, someone else did.

I make very little, from a commercial standpoint.

Don't offer opinions or advice. Try ("BUY") the product, and then critique
it.

Thanks for the continued advertising.

apb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake

>
> I believe in an educated customer.
> I will continue to provide information that is as accurate as possible
based
> on my own experiences and research.
>
> Check ALL my posts and articles in the MVM, be it about biodiesel, coolant
> filters, crankcase breather filter, turn signal buzzer, headlight switch
> bypass/override circuits, vertical engine air intake, exhaust brake, NDCC
> tire wet pavement traction, accurate mpg measurements, engine cooling
> problems (radiator cover), bikini top advantages, flame heater monitor,
> pyro/ boost gauges, off-road driving with and without chains, tire
> temperatures and pressure changes due to loading and speed..etc. The list
> goes on.
>
> Sorry Arthur if it hurts your sales, it's not my intention. When you bring
> up a subject on this list for discussion (or is it just for selling one of
> your products) expect responses both pros and cons.
>
> I would think that my info could help you make a better product.
>
> Like Thomas A. Edison said "There is always a way to do it better...find
> it".
> A good way to find it, is by looking at exactly the kind of info that
others
> and I present to this list free of charge, no less.
>
> Disc brakes and drum brakes have different braking characterics, how will
> you match them?
>
> I learned about drive line braking when I installed the exhaust brake on
my
> deuce.
> Read about it, they can be dangerous if not used correctly.
>
> About my 24 to 12 volt converter, you will soon see a "Point of Load"
power
> supply that is rugged and waterproof that can be used for individual
> components, from light to cb radios.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Bjorn
> MVPA19212
> The Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia
>
>
>
> >From: m35products <m35prod@optonline.net>
> >To: Bjorn Brandstedt <super_deuce@hotmail.com>, Military Vehicles Mailing
> >List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
> >Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 11:03:19 -0400
> >
> >Once again, a reader just doesn't seem to understand the concept of "if
you
> >can't something nice, don't say anything."
> >
> >Immediately upon my mentioning our new product, Bjorn feels the need to
> >jump
> >right in and start the dis-information program. Bjorn, have you driven an
> >M35 with a pinion brake? Would you like one, on approval, to evaluate?
Just
> >ask. My policy has always been "send it back if you don't like it."
> >
> >I am in business (hobby, actually, according to my wife and the
accountant)
> >to help owners of M35 trucks enjoy their vehicles, and to enjoy them
> >safely.
> >The pinion brake concept (not mine... I must credit John Tennis, in fact,
> >for the M35 application) is an accessory brake, not designed to replace
> >service or parking brakes. It does, however, add considerable braking
> >ability to the service brake system, with no fancy extra equipment. It
> >simply TEE's into the service line at the rear axle, and bolts to the the
> >rear output flange thingie. The trucks will stop, and decisively. In
> >response to your assertion that driveline braking is inferior to wheel
> >braking - it's not a contest, it's an improvement. Let's allow my
> >customers to see for themselves, shall we?
> >
> >My policy is simple. The customer drives the business. Naysayers do not.
> >There is always the manly-man who says that only a girly-man would need
> >power steering. I see by my saved messages that you, Bjorn, have made
that
> >public assertion several times over the years. TACOM disagrees. There is
> >always the shade tree mechanic who would take $100 worth of drive
flanges,
> >and spend 4 hours of his valuable time, making fake lockout hubs, (with
> >superfluous bearings, in fact) rather than cough up the $ for a real
set.
> >There is a whole public thread about that concept, too, and it all seems
to
> >be in your handwriting.
> >
> >Now, we hear all the reasons why NOT to buy a pinion brake. Bjorn,
please,
> >just let me try to make a few bucks here, OK? (the margin is around $20
for
> >each one.)
> >
> >Did I badmouth your 12-volt to 24-volt taillight blackbox project? No.
Even
> >though I could think of lots of reasons not to go that route, I even
> >offered
> >to help you market them.
> >
> >Thank you, Bjorn, for once again giving me the opportunity to get some
free
> >publicity, by perpetuating your constant program of knocking down every
> >product that I have introduced. Go find something useful to do with your
> >spare time, rather than criticizing me. I hear there's a war on. Maybe
you
> >could knit some bandages with the rest of the girls.
> >
> >APB
> >www.M35products.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
> >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:03 AM
> >Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
> >
> >
> > > Be careful with pinion, hand and engine brakes they are "driveline"
> >brakes
> > > and work via the differential.
> > >
> > > If the traction is questionable then you may lose control of the
> >vehicle.
> > > Think about it. On a side slope the upper wheels will brake and it
would
> >not
> > > slow the vehicle unless you have locking diffs.
> > >
> > > That's why the driveline brake is not well suited as a parking brake
> >either.
> > >
> > > I have driven my deuce for thousands of miles on the highway and found
> > > acceleration, speed and braking satisfactory with gross vehicle
weights
> > > close to 26,000 lb.
> > > My biggest concern has been the wet pavement traction of the NDCC's
and
> >I'll
> > > be checking out some Goodyear Unisteels soon, I hope.
> > > I did get a siping/grooving tool, but haven't had the nerve to cut my
> >NDCC's
> > > yet.
> > >
> > > Have a great day!
> > >
> > > Bjorn
> > > MVPA19212
> > > Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Marc Strangfeld <mjstrangfeld@yahoo.com>
> > > >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
> > > >Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 02:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >This is the first time I've heard of the pinion brake
> > > >setup. It's genius! I'll have to put one after I
> > > >finish my other projects.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Marc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- m35products <m35prod@optonline.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Many enthusiasts of the M35 find that the initial
> > > > > joyful ownership reaction
> > > > > eventually fades into a more sober realization of
> > > > > the truck's true
> > > > > personality.
> > > > >
> > > > > The M35 class (actually, the M44 class) has lots to
> > > > > be desired. It steers
> > > > > like a brick, and accelerates like one, too. Once it
> > > > > gets up to speed, which
> > > > > is a velocity not too impressive, it takes quite a
> > > > > bit of stomping and
> > > > > cursing to stop it.
> > > > >
> > > > > At my little company, we sell after-market widgets
> > > > > to make ownership a bit
> > > > > easier to rationalize.
> > > > >
> > > > > We sell power steering to make it turn, and lockout
> > > > > hubs to make it go
> > > > > faster. Now we sell a pretty nifty disc-brake
> > > > > accessory to make it stop
> > > > > better.
> > > > >
> > > > > The pinion brake can be added to any or all of the
> > > > > three axles, depending
> > > > > upon how quickly the driver needs to stop.
> > > > >
> > > > > We recommend that at least one be added to the
> > > > > rear-rear axle. The cost is
> > > > > around $400, and installation takes under an hour.
> > > > > It will make the truck
> > > > > stop, period.
> > > > >
> > > > > See www.imageevent.com/moosecreekmaple/m35a4 and
> > > > > click around until you see
> > > > > the rear pinion brake picture.
> > > > >
> > > > > A P Bloom
> > > > > www.M35products.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jim Zehr" <jimm1009@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> > > > > <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:25 PM
> > > > > Subject: [MV] M35 series brakes
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > This weekend there was a show on that showed Disc
> > > > > > Brake kits for the Rockwell axles used under the
> > > > > M35
> > > > > > series trucks. The brake kit manufacturer is
> > > > > > Differential Engineering.
> > > > > > The axles being modified were not use on a Deuce
> > > > > but
> > > > > > never the less it seems like a good thing if the
> > > > > rest
> > > > > > of the sstem could be worked out.
> > > > > > How do stock M35 "true-military" brakes work when
> > > > > all
> > > > > > components are in optimum condition?
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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