Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake

From: Patrick Jankowiak (recycler@swbell.net)
Date: Tue Aug 02 2005 - 19:38:38 PDT


I found no reason for shims. Check these pics of 1100x20's on a
M35 with 3 tond in the bed. Maybe radials are different.

http://rawfire.torche.com/~opcom/11x20/11x20fit.html

santoken@bright.net wrote:

> Have you looked at the G178? I love that aggresso-tread!
>
> I only wish they were avail in 900-20.
>
> Arthur, you want a product to sell? Make me the shims that I can bolt 1100R20's on with duel wheels...now you've got something.
>
> Kent
>
>
>>From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
>>Date: Tue Aug 2, 6:55 PM
>>To: santoken@bright.net
>>CC: mil-veh@mil-veh.org
>>Subject: Re: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
>>
>>
>>The model I'm after is G177 1100r20. They are almost identical in size to
>>the NDCC 11.00-20 and I'm running singels.
>>
>>G177 loaded radius: 20.5
>>NDCC 11.00-20 loaded radius: 20.2
>>
>>They can both use the 7 to 8 inch rim.
>>
>>Bjorn
>>
>>
>>>From: <santoken@bright.net>
>>>To: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>,"Military Vehicles Mailing
>>>List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>Subject: Re: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
>>>Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:15:17 -0400
>>>
>>>Bjorn,
>>>
>>>What model Unisteel were you looking at? I was looking at the G177 and
>>>G178 and neither are avail in 900R20.
>>>
>>>Kent
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
>>>>Date: Tue Aug 2, 7:03 AM
>>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
>>>>
>>>>Be careful with pinion, hand and engine brakes they are "driveline"
>>>
>>>brakes
>>>
>>>>and work via the differential.
>>>>
>>>>If the traction is questionable then you may lose control of the
>>>
>>>vehicle.
>>>
>>>>Think about it. On a side slope the upper wheels will brake and it would
>>>
>>>not
>>>
>>>>slow the vehicle unless you have locking diffs.
>>>>
>>>>That's why the driveline brake is not well suited as a parking brake
>>>
>>>either.
>>>
>>>>I have driven my deuce for thousands of miles on the highway and found
>>>>acceleration, speed and braking satisfactory with gross vehicle weights
>>>>close to 26,000 lb.
>>>>My biggest concern has been the wet pavement traction of the NDCC's and
>>>
>>>I'll
>>>
>>>>be checking out some Goodyear Unisteels soon, I hope.
>>>>I did get a siping/grooving tool, but haven't had the nerve to cut my
>>>
>>>NDCC's
>>>
>>>>yet.
>>>>
>>>>Have a great day!
>>>>
>>>>Bjorn
>>>>MVPA19212
>>>>Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: Marc Strangfeld <mjstrangfeld@yahoo.com>
>>>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
>>>>>Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 02:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>
>>>>>This is the first time I've heard of the pinion brake
>>>>>setup. It's genius! I'll have to put one after I
>>>>>finish my other projects.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--- m35products <m35prod@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Many enthusiasts of the M35 find that the initial
>>>>>>joyful ownership reaction
>>>>>>eventually fades into a more sober realization of
>>>>>>the truck's true
>>>>>>personality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The M35 class (actually, the M44 class) has lots to
>>>>>>be desired. It steers
>>>>>>like a brick, and accelerates like one, too. Once it
>>>>>>gets up to speed, which
>>>>>>is a velocity not too impressive, it takes quite a
>>>>>>bit of stomping and
>>>>>>cursing to stop it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At my little company, we sell after-market widgets
>>>>>>to make ownership a bit
>>>>>>easier to rationalize.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We sell power steering to make it turn, and lockout
>>>>>>hubs to make it go
>>>>>>faster. Now we sell a pretty nifty disc-brake
>>>>>>accessory to make it stop
>>>>>>better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The pinion brake can be added to any or all of the
>>>>>>three axles, depending
>>>>>>upon how quickly the driver needs to stop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We recommend that at least one be added to the
>>>>>>rear-rear axle. The cost is
>>>>>>around $400, and installation takes under an hour.
>>>>>>It will make the truck
>>>>>>stop, period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>See www.imageevent.com/moosecreekmaple/m35a4 and
>>>>>>click around until you see
>>>>>>the rear pinion brake picture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A P Bloom
>>>>>>www.M35products.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Jim Zehr" <jimm1009@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
>>>>>><mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:25 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [MV] M35 series brakes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This weekend there was a show on that showed Disc
>>>>>>>Brake kits for the Rockwell axles used under the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>M35
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>series trucks. The brake kit manufacturer is
>>>>>>>Differential Engineering.
>>>>>>>The axles being modified were not use on a Deuce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>never the less it seems like a good thing if the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>rest
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>of the sstem could be worked out.
>>>>>>>How do stock M35 "true-military" brakes work when
>>>>>>
>>>>>>all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>components are in optimum condition?
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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