From: Adam Suess (ajsuess@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Aug 24 2005 - 20:29:30 PDT
Here in Minnesota fed owned trucks, pumps, generators and what not that are
lent through the DNR forestry division remain federal property and cannot be
sold or parted with out written permission. These items must be returned
when no longer used. The Minnesota DNR physically inspects yearly. It use to
be that they just came and said yep you have it but this year they took down
mileage, hrs, condition, where it was stored, What it was used for etc. We
can not part a truck out. However we can swap parts off trucks in the DNR
inventory, but must replace that part with the one removed from our surplus
truck. equipment must be complete when returned. If they come to inspect and
you do not have the the idem they will bill the fire dept for it. They set
the price in that case.
Fed property received through the State Surplus in Minnesota must be put
into use with in 90 days and used for 3 years then you get title. We pay a
service fee and shipping on the idem. They currently have a M 52 available
to city's and counties for $5,000. If they don't place it, it goes on a GSA
sale. I'm attempting to get a 900 series 5 ton for the city to be used for
a snow plow through this program. I've had the request in for 2 years now
they can't find a 900 series. Good programs. Our fire dept has alot of
equipment through the DNR program and we use it.
Adam Suess
>From: m35products <m35prod@optonline.net>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Subject: Re: [MV] Missing vehicles
>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 09:05:20 -0400
>
>The vehicles and materiel that is distributed via the FEPP does not need to
>accounted for in the sense that we civilians understand. There is a time
>limit for vehicles, and one for office equipment, etc, after which the
>stuff
>may be sold without a back-accounting to the agency that issued it. I
>believe that with vehicles it is 18 months in NY State.
>
>Many highway departments and fire departments have received trucks, used
>them, and sold them at a "profit" after the statutory time period has
>elapsed. It is common, and not illegal. I have a pipeline delivery truck
>that is essentially residue. (Some a$$holes stripped all the unique parts
>off, because they were "useless for a fire-fighting application".) It has a
>tree growing through it. Most of the edible parts have been removed, and if
>I were asked to justify my ownership, I would not be able to offer any
>reasonable chain of title. I doubt if it is on any list of "missing"
>trucks.
>
>APBloom
>www.M35products.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ron" <rojoha@adelphia.net>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:47 AM
>Subject: Re: [MV] Missing vehicles
>
>
> > "30.000 STATE vehicles missing" sounds like a problem with US
>Government
> > surplus vehicles given to states for use with the proviso that they must
>be
> > returned at the end of service or 'accounted' for when sold.
> > 'Hey Chief, what about that PoS army truck out back we got for parts
>for
> > those two old brush trucks we got rid of a couple of years ago? Can we
>dump
> > it? We got it for free and nobody asked about it in 5 years. There's a
>guy
> > who asked if it was for sale and it's just sitting there and we could
>use
>a
> > new grill for the station...."
> > The article doesn't say when the books were LAST balanced ...
> > Yep, pretty good possibility that some of the missing vehicles are
>owned
> > by list members. Get a title when you bought yours from the town yard?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Employee at MILVEHCO" <milveh@dslextreme.com>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: 24 August, 2005 00:22
> > Subject: Re: [MV] Missing vehicles
> >
> >
> > > Don't believe it Sonny? I know, my reaction too, however it's
>actually
> > > worse, this was for just ONE state. If you read "Government Waste
>a-z",
> > > it has some stuff that would make your hair fall out. Example:
>Federal
> > > government fritters away at least $375 billion annually on
>questionable
> > > programs and projects, such as the National Swine Research Center ($13
> > > million), a study on mail-delivery times ($23 million), and the Robert
>J.
> > > Dole Institute at the University of Kansas ($6 million). Pentagon
> > > recently spent $5 million to build a third golf course at Andrews Air
> > > Force Base, just outside the District of Columbia....
> > >
> > > Anyway back to missing vehicles, latest count says 30,000 in the
>newspaper
> > > today...check this out...what a way to run a government...
> > >
> > > "30,000 state vehicles "missing"
> > >
> > > Daviid M. Drucker
> > > Staff Writer - Sacramento Bee
> > >
> > > SACRAMENTO - California's fleet of state-owned vehicles swelled to
>70,000
> > > last year, but officials in an aggressive new asset-management push
>have
> > > so far been able to pinpoint only about 40,000 of them."
> > > To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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