RE: [MV] Solargizers, shutoff switches and leakage.

From: Glen Closson (glen_closson@earthlink.net)
Date: Sun Sep 18 2005 - 13:52:43 PDT


Peoples,
The plug-in-the-lighter charges will not work on some vehicles. This is due
to the fact the lighter socket is disconnected from the electrical system
when the key is in the "off" or removed position.

You can easily check by plugging an accessory into the lighter with the key
removed and see if the accessory works. If the accessory works, you're good
to go. If it doesn't, the charger will not help with the key removed unless
you jumper around the switch. Or add another lighter socket is always "on."

Regards,
 
Glen

-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On Behalf
Of Buzz
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 11:51 AM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: [MV] Solargizers, shutoff switches and leakage.

Guys,
FWIW
I've found a inexpensive "solargizer" at Hobo Freight, and they are now on
sale for $9.99..
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=44768
I've used these solar chargers for the last several years on my ATV's,
forklift, garden tractor and of course jeeps with excellent results. The
cord is long enough to reach a nearby window or door if your vehicle is
garaged.
The one drawback is that there is electronics in the cigarette plug, so in
my case I just installed a cigarette receptacle in an obscure place on the
jeep, which also comes in handy to power a CD player or radio.
The other requirement is that you have a Master shutoff switch for the
batteries so the chargers won't interact with each other.
One other note, there is a fuse inside the cigarette connector and to
replace it the tip unscrews then the fuse slides out. I've never had to
replace a fuse yet.
Now if you want a AC float charger you can also buy:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42292
But once again a master shutoff switch is required. I've wired two of these
together on a 3 conductor plug so that there is: neg, pos and neg, then pos.
then I plug it into a short cable at the battery box that matches that
wiring to the batteries

Master shutoff switch.
Once again at Hobo Freight.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=92688
I have a master shut off switch on all my vehicles, first to prevent little
hands from turning switches ON at MV displays, and second to prevent leakage
currents from discharging the batteries and also to allow me to connect up
the float chargers.

I recently found another source of battery leakage.
I went to use my GRC-106 and the 2 amp fuse in the R/T was blown. I
inserted the spare and it blew also.
When I got home I removed the R/T unit to find the problem. I connected the
radio to a 24V current regulated supply, set at 1 amp. With the radio switch
OFF, as soon as I turned on the power supply the current went to 1 amp!
Checking the schematic I found that there was a filter on the DC socket,
pos. to ground. Using an ohmmeter I read the resistance from pos. to ground
at the socket and I had a reading of 10 ohms which equals a 2.8 amp. current
draw.
In this case enough to blow the 2 amp. fuse.

I then tested several other radios of different types and found leakage of
several hundred ohms to several thousand ohms which would leak .030 amps to
as high as .090 amps. Not enough to blow a fuse or trip a breaker but surely
enough to run a battery down over time.

Buzz

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:47:33 -0400, you wrote:
>Never heard any noise from mine. On the CUCV remember that the
>batteries are charged by separate alternators, maybe 2-12 volt would
>work better? There is a company in Alabama that sell 12 volts for
>around 20.00 + shipping. I have them on my 12v lawnmower and tractor
>also. I have bought from them before and received good service. Wayne
>
>http://www.qninet.com/qniwebstore.html
>
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>
>
>
>>From: "Darrell Ramsell" <daram@comcast.net>
>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>Subject: Re: [MV] Surplus Solargizers Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:13:55
>>-0700
>>
>>Is it normal for these to make a high pitch ringing notice when they
>>are charging?
>>
>>Darrell
>>
>>>Ed
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "James Shanks" <n1vbn@yahoo.com>
>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 13:20
>>>Subject: [MV] Surplus Solargizers
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got any NOS Solargizers? I would like to add one to my
>>>>M-1009 before Winter sets in here in NH. I am in 03038 and could use
>>>>3 or 4 of em.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any and all help.
>



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