From: Thomas M McHugh (tmmchugh@msn.com)
Date: Mon Sep 19 2005 - 06:41:41 PDT
I grew up with traffic circles in NJ. They are built extra wide to allow
all size vehicles, including Tractor Trailers to negotiate them. All
traffic can flow easy, merge easy & exit easy, unless the driver just tries
to drive straight through the flow of traffic.
Enter on the outside lane & merge towards the inside if you are going around
more than half way. Everyone can see the speed of a gradually merging
vehicle & either move across in front or merge behind the entering vehicles.
It does not need to be a circle for an idiot to cause traffic problems.
The main reason circles are being eliminated is the quantity of vehicles
trying to cross paths. We have too many cars & the caution requires slower
driving. That automatically causes back-up at a circle.
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MVPA VOTE NOW:
SVEN JOHNSON - GREG WOLANIN -
AL NICHOLSON - JIM DIAS
HELP ELECT DIRECTORS THAT WILL WORK FOR ALL MEMBERS,
NOT JUST THEMSELVES OR OLD FASHIONED STUBBORNNESS.
Tom McHugh, NJ
1952 M38A1
M-416 Trailer
MVPA, MTA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Hay MILWEB" <nigel@milweb.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] [BULK] Re: [MV] WWII DC3
> Are traffic circles a similar phenomenon as crop circles? I think we
> should
> be told
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> Behalf Of Mark B. Anderson
> Sent: 19 September 2005 15:06
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] [BULK] Re: [MV] WWII DC3
>
>
> we have 2 traffic circles within 300 miles of me and only heard of them
> never seen one...someone please explain how these work and do they give
> enough room for an M35 to go around and around in them???
>
> question I really need to know.
>
> Regards,
>
> mark
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] [BULK] Re: [MV] WWII DC3
>
>
>> Traffic circles seem to work fine, in European countries at least. I
>> noticed that traffic seems to be able to get in and out totally safe if
>> the vehicle "In the circle" has the right of way.
>>
>> Sonny
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick v100" <rickv100@yahoo.com>
>> To: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>; "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
>> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:44 AM
>> Subject: [BULK] Re: [MV] WWII DC3
>>
>>
>>> If you really want something confusing try having a
>>> circle. Pretty much full speed into the circle free
>>> for all.
>>>
>>> NJ started taking the cricles out due to the number of
>>> accidents and putting in 4 way intersections.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Sonny Heath <sonny@defuniak.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peoples driving habits beats anything I've ever
>>>> seen, at least where I go.
>>>> NOBODY seems to know that when you come upon a multi
>>>> lane roadway and make a
>>>> turn that the law requires you to make your turn and
>>>> remain in the closest
>>>> lane to where you were UNTIL you can clearly check
>>>> the traffic and THEN you
>>>> may make your signal and safely move over one lane
>>>> at a time until you get
>>>> to where you want to be in traffic. That and the
>>>> fact that NOBODY seems to
>>>> know what a STOP sign means,
>>>>
>>>> Sonny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "dgrev" <dgrev@iinet.net.au>
>>>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
>>>> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:11 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MV] WWII DC3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Jeff
>>>> >
>>>> >> The planes I rent have all the latest GPS,
>>>> weather nav
>>>> >> garbage, personally I have no use for it. I like
>>>> to
>>>> >> follow the landscape, roads, terrain, turn on the
>>>> NDB
>>>> >> maybe, even try to avoid using VOR's but in a
>>>> pinch I
>>>> >> will, Kinda scary flying commercial these days
>>>> knowing
>>>> >> some young buck up there has his training from
>>>> playing
>>>> >> nintendo!!
>>>> >
>>>> > I take it that in the US you have the same
>>>> abreviations
>>>> > as we do (our system is based on yours) so when
>>>> all else
>>>> > fails it's back to the basics:
>>>> >
>>>> > VFR = Visually Follow Roads.
>>>> >
>>>> > IFR = I Follow Roads.
>>>> >
>>>> > It certainly does make you wonder how the world
>>>> will
>>>> > survive if there is ever an EMP pulse.
>>>> > Bang will go all the ground based nav aids. I have
>>>> no idea if the
>>>> > satellites are hardened?
>>>> >
>>>> > The way things are these days, even your fridge
>>>> and stove have electronics
>>>> > and will be fried!
>>>> > Same with Solargisers too.
>>>> >
>>>> > Of late, there appears to be a lot of ancillary
>>>> military
>>>> > equipment (ie, base vehicles, computers etc) that
>>>> are
>>>> > civilian spec. They won't be much good either.
>>>> >
>>>> > > Kinda scary flying commercial these days knowing
>>>> > > some young buck up there has his training from
>>>> playing
>>>> > > nintendo!!
>>>> >
>>>> > There has been some stuff on TV of late that the
>>>> Europeans
>>>> > have noticed that the Nintendo generation make for
>>>> lousy
>>>> > drivers, not better ones. You don't get 3 lives in
>>>> the real
>>>> > world. Thus they are having to start driver
>>>> training in schools
>>>> > with lots of crash pics to get it through to the
>>>> kids that cars
>>>> > are not "virtual" devices and do obey neutonian
>>>> laws of motion.
>>>> > Not that anyone is taught history anymore........
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> > Doug
>>>> >
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