Re: [MV] Traffic Circles - MVPA VOTE NOW

From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Mon Sep 19 2005 - 10:19:08 PDT


I don't usually get involved with politics but I may vote on this one.

Where do all these recommended candidates live and which chapter do they all
belong to. I would like to cast an educational vote as possible.

Sonny

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Shoop" <shoop19@brick.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Traffic Circles - MVPA VOTE NOW

>I am voting with Tom on this one...return the club to it's members....
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas M McHugh" <tmmchugh@msn.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:41 AM
> Subject: [MV] Traffic Circles - MVPA VOTE NOW
>
>
>>I grew up with traffic circles in NJ. They are built extra wide to allow
>>all size vehicles, including Tractor Trailers to negotiate them. All
>>traffic can flow easy, merge easy & exit easy, unless the driver just
>>tries to drive straight through the flow of traffic.
>>
>> Enter on the outside lane & merge towards the inside if you are going
>> around more than half way. Everyone can see the speed of a gradually
>> merging vehicle & either move across in front or merge behind the
>> entering vehicles.
>>
>> It does not need to be a circle for an idiot to cause traffic problems.
>>
>> The main reason circles are being eliminated is the quantity of vehicles
>> trying to cross paths. We have too many cars & the caution requires
>> slower driving. That automatically causes back-up at a circle.
>>
>> --------
>> MVPA VOTE NOW:
>> SVEN JOHNSON - GREG WOLANIN -
>> AL NICHOLSON - JIM DIAS
>>
>> HELP ELECT DIRECTORS THAT WILL WORK FOR ALL MEMBERS,
>> NOT JUST THEMSELVES OR OLD FASHIONED STUBBORNNESS.
>>
>>
>> Tom McHugh, NJ
>> 1952 M38A1
>> M-416 Trailer
>> MVPA, MTA
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nigel Hay MILWEB" <nigel@milweb.net>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MV] [BULK] Re: [MV] WWII DC3
>>
>>
>>> Are traffic circles a similar phenomenon as crop circles? I think we
>>> should
>>> be told
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
>>> Behalf Of Mark B. Anderson
>>> Sent: 19 September 2005 15:06
>>> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [MV] [BULK] Re: [MV] WWII DC3
>>>
>>>
>>> we have 2 traffic circles within 300 miles of me and only heard of them
>>> never seen one...someone please explain how these work and do they give
>>> enough room for an M35 to go around and around in them???
>>>
>>> question I really need to know.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> mark
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
>>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MV] [BULK] Re: [MV] WWII DC3
>>>
>>>
>>>> Traffic circles seem to work fine, in European countries at least. I
>>>> noticed that traffic seems to be able to get in and out totally safe if
>>>> the vehicle "In the circle" has the right of way.
>>>>
>>>> Sonny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rick v100" <rickv100@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>; "Military Vehicles Mailing
>>>> List"
>>>> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:44 AM
>>>> Subject: [BULK] Re: [MV] WWII DC3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If you really want something confusing try having a
>>>>> circle. Pretty much full speed into the circle free
>>>>> for all.
>>>>>
>>>>> NJ started taking the cricles out due to the number of
>>>>> accidents and putting in 4 way intersections.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Sonny Heath <sonny@defuniak.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peoples driving habits beats anything I've ever
>>>>>> seen, at least where I go.
>>>>>> NOBODY seems to know that when you come upon a multi
>>>>>> lane roadway and make a
>>>>>> turn that the law requires you to make your turn and
>>>>>> remain in the closest
>>>>>> lane to where you were UNTIL you can clearly check
>>>>>> the traffic and THEN you
>>>>>> may make your signal and safely move over one lane
>>>>>> at a time until you get
>>>>>> to where you want to be in traffic. That and the
>>>>>> fact that NOBODY seems to
>>>>>> know what a STOP sign means,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sonny
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "dgrev" <dgrev@iinet.net.au>
>>>>>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
>>>>>> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:11 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MV] WWII DC3
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Jeff
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> The planes I rent have all the latest GPS,
>>>>>> weather nav
>>>>>> >> garbage, personally I have no use for it. I like
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> >> follow the landscape, roads, terrain, turn on the
>>>>>> NDB
>>>>>> >> maybe, even try to avoid using VOR's but in a
>>>>>> pinch I
>>>>>> >> will, Kinda scary flying commercial these days
>>>>>> knowing
>>>>>> >> some young buck up there has his training from
>>>>>> playing
>>>>>> >> nintendo!!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I take it that in the US you have the same
>>>>>> abreviations
>>>>>> > as we do (our system is based on yours) so when
>>>>>> all else
>>>>>> > fails it's back to the basics:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > VFR = Visually Follow Roads.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > IFR = I Follow Roads.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It certainly does make you wonder how the world
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> > survive if there is ever an EMP pulse.
>>>>>> > Bang will go all the ground based nav aids. I have
>>>>>> no idea if the
>>>>>> > satellites are hardened?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The way things are these days, even your fridge
>>>>>> and stove have electronics
>>>>>> > and will be fried!
>>>>>> > Same with Solargisers too.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Of late, there appears to be a lot of ancillary
>>>>>> military
>>>>>> > equipment (ie, base vehicles, computers etc) that
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > civilian spec. They won't be much good either.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Kinda scary flying commercial these days knowing
>>>>>> > > some young buck up there has his training from
>>>>>> playing
>>>>>> > > nintendo!!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > There has been some stuff on TV of late that the
>>>>>> Europeans
>>>>>> > have noticed that the Nintendo generation make for
>>>>>> lousy
>>>>>> > drivers, not better ones. You don't get 3 lives in
>>>>>> the real
>>>>>> > world. Thus they are having to start driver
>>>>>> training in schools
>>>>>> > with lots of crash pics to get it through to the
>>>>>> kids that cars
>>>>>> > are not "virtual" devices and do obey neutonian
>>>>>> laws of motion.
>>>>>> > Not that anyone is taught history anymore........
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards
>>>>>> > Doug
>>>>>> >
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