From: David B (wdbtchr@excite.com)
Date: Tue Oct 04 2005 - 17:19:25 PDT
What was the groups conclusion about using waste motor oil in multi-fuel trucks? Is anybody doing it now or for long term? I'm trying to set up a means of filter my used oil to burn in my M-51A2.
David B
1953 Dodge M-37
1965 Kaiser Jeep M-51A2
1967 Kaiser Jeep M-54A2
--- On Mon 10/03, Kirk Thompson < mosen_temp@mosen.net > wrote:
From: Kirk Thompson [mailto: mosen_temp@mosen.net]
To: mil-veh@mil-veh.org
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:43:35 -0600
Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel & cooking oil
Whoops! Forgot the URL:<br><http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html><br><br>This is a good site. Has all kinds of good information on bio-diesel, etc.<br><br>-K<br><br>At 10:39 AM 10/2/2005, Darrell Ramsell wrote:<br>>Hi Dick<br>><br>>You reminded me of a question I wanted to ask earlier on this topic.<br>><br>>I'm not a chemist, so I was wondering if anyone can tell me what is the <br>>function of Lye and methanol when added to oil?<br>><br>>Thanks<br>><br>>Darrell<br>><br>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick" <rertman@ix.netcom.com><br>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org><br>>Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 8:16 AM<br>>Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel & cooking oil<br>><br>><br>>>Kent:<br>>><br>>>"Just cooking oil" is simply the oil used for cooking...usually in a deep<br>>>fryer...from restaurants.<br>>>It's simply filtered thru a filter that allows nothing larger than 2 microns<br>>>to pass thru, then added<br>>>to the fuel tank such that
the ratio is 80% petrodiesel and 20% cooking oil.<br>>>This oil is usually<br>>>referred to as waste vegetable oil (WVO).<br>>><br>>>Biodiesel starts with WVO, then is processed using lye and methanol (an<br>>>alcohol) and is then<br>>>either added to the vehicle fuel tank along with the petrodiesel, or used<br>>>100% instead of petrodiesel.<br>>><br>>>A note of caution. Running 100% biodiesel, or even a high percentage of<br>>>biodiesel almost always<br>>>requires modification of the vehicle's fuel delivery system because the<br>>>biodiesel isn't compatible<br>>>with rubber (synthetic or natural) hoses and seals designed for use with<br>>>petrodiesel.<br>>><br>>>For what it's worth, I mix 20% filtered WVO and 80% petrodiesel in my fuel<br>>>tank.<br>>><br>>>Regards,<br>>><br>>>Dick<br>>><br>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <santoken@bright.net><br>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org><br>>>Sent: 02 October, 2005 06:28<br>>>Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel
& cooking oil<br>>><br>>><br>>>I've been paying attention to this topic for some time, I have a question,<br>>>what is the difference betwwn biodiesel and just cooking oil?<br>>><br>>>Kent<br>>><br>>><br>>>><br>>>>From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com><br>>>>Date: Sun Oct 2, 6:35 AM<br>>>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org><br>>>>Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel & cooking oil<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>Hoses and seals and even copper may be effected by biodiesel, no problem<br>>>>with clean cooking oil.<br>>>><br>>>>When you increase the percentage of oil you increase the chances of<br>>>>injector coking. Maybe it should be called coking oil. :-)<br>>>><br>>>>If you want to run on 100% oil, heat the tank and<br>>>>start and shut down on diesel. That way the risk for coking is<br>>>>minimized. It does require two fuel tanks.<br>>>>My current project involves just that, I have installed a coolant<br>>>>heating coil in the main tank and will add a second
diesel tank<br>>>>(about 10 gallons) for starting/warming up and shutting down to<br>>>>purge the system of oil.<br>>>>I have been running my deuce on biodiesel and some cooking oil and<br>>>>diesel since April. Currently 100% biodiesel.<br>>>><br>>>>Bjorn<br>>>>MVPA19212<br>>>>Meadows of Dan,Virginia<br>>>><br>>>>1968 M49A2C (modified), 1972 HIAB crane, M756 pipeline truck bed...<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> >From: "Dick" <rertman@ix.netcom.com><br>>>> >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org><br>>>> >Subject: Re: [MV] Deisle & cooking oil<br>>>> >Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 17:48:05 -0700<br>>>> ><br>>>> >Thanks for the info, Darrell. I'm using 20% used frying oil in my<br>>>> >Dodge/Cummins pickup truck.<br>>>> >Someone on the list said not to use more than 20% vegetable oil because<br>>>> >some<br>>>> >hoses and seals<br>>>> >might be damaged.<br>>>> ><br>>>> >Thanks again,<br>>>> ><br>>>> >Dick<br>>><br>>><br>>>===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing
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