Re: [Fwd: [inmvpa] i need your help, please]

From: froberts@midsouth.rr.com
Date: Wed Jan 11 2006 - 07:06:14 PST


The MVPA better that a stand NOW. After the 1st one does any other
state, or anybody who wants another state to do it will say "Kanas is
already doing it".

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----- Original Message -----
From: G Shaw <milspectruck@verizon.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:57 am
Subject: Re: [MV] [Fwd: [inmvpa] i need your help, please]

> Hey guys, just a step back from the issue for a second;
>
> Beware that this is fraud both with your registration and your
> insurance and
> has MANY pitfalls. You must have a verifiable garaged address for
the
> insurance companies as well as the taxes. PO Boxes are
> unacceptable except
> as a business mailing address. I would be wary of committing all
> kinds of
> felonies and misdemeanors in a vain effort to get around the
> primary issue.
> This will do everyone a lot more harm than good. Does the state
> of Kansas
> have right to not certify a certain type of vehicle for everyday
> road use??
> This has already been decided many times in the courts. It is a
> priviledge,not a right to use a vehicle on the road as the state
> may see fit. And the
> state will execute their power and defend it in the courts.
>
> If you look at the argument raised by the Ferret owner pretty much
> everyclause is quite weak in its legal standing. Although we may
> not like the
> outcome, Kansas has many different solid arguments that they may
> use in
> court (and will) to support their refusal to issue the priviledge
> of driving
> this armored military vehicle on the public way. Safety issues
> specific to
> the vehicles odd seating, non standard steering controls, limited
> visibilityand the safety of other travelers near it on the highway
> , along with the
> ever present public policy issues to do with Private Armor in this
> day and
> age of Terrorist threats. Does anyone else see the day coming
> when Private
> Armor will reside only in collections or be trucked out to a
> parade or show
> on a flatbed? I see it as a real possibility the way things are
> going. You
> will find that support for the owners of this Armor being able to
> be owned
> at all or driven on the highway, with the general public, is about
> as great
> as for anyone being able to walk around with a sub machine gun at
> the mall.
> We have to face up to what the reality of this is today. People
> are afraid
> out there.
>
> Does the MVPA "want" to make a stand on this issue here and now?
> I don't
> know. It may have as much downside as up to make a big stink of
> this in the
> Public Forum. If the case is lost it will become a far more
widespread
> policy in many more states. Maybe discretion would be the better
> part of
> valor on this at this time. Perhaps this guy can just move on to
> anothertype of MV and have some fun instead of giving himself a
> lot of trouble all
> the way around. It is certain that the legal costs where this is
> headingare going to be FAR more than the Ferret cost in the first
> place. I was not
> going to post anything on this, but I think that everyone should
> take a look
> at the long view of the big picture without emotion before flying
> off on
> this. It will end up being argued by legal pros far better than I
> soonenough if it keeps moving up the docket as they say. We shall
> see.
> Glenn
> MTA
> MVPA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]
> On Behalf
> Of MV
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:01 AM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] [Fwd: [inmvpa] i need your help, please]
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience in doing this? Particulary
> between
> Indiana and Michigan or Ohio or Illinois?
>
> Dave
>
> laptops wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Maguire"
> <dmaguire@mchsi.com>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-
> veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:14 PM
> > Subject: [MV] [Fwd: [inmvpa] i need your help, please]
> >
> > Here is what I would do.Go to Illinois and get a pobx and get
> Illonois> Plates and tell Kanas where to stick it
> > Gordon
> >
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