From: Bill Kealey (cwkealey@atlanticbb.net)
Date: Wed Jan 11 2006 - 18:25:56 PST
Dave,
As a retired police officer my suggestion is not to register/title in
What I would do would be to contact an attorney that specializes in motor
Usually, the first visit meeting with an attorney is free, at least the ones
If you do not know of any attorney's that specialize in this area of law
A politely worded letter from an attorney to the head of the DMV/MVA,
At this point it seems to me that you have the opinion of someone with a
Another idea would be for you to write to the person denying your
I would not refer to it as an armored vehicle, scout car or anything other
I believe that if a representative of the state is denying your titling and
Then, if you do everything that you can to operate the vehicle legally, and
Hope this helps.
Bill K.MVPA
another state unless you check first to see if this is in fact legal in your
state to do so.
vehicle law and if possible one that is familier with commercial vehicles.
This attorny should be knowledgable about the "Brinks" and other armored
vehicles as well as large or heavy vehicles.
that I have delt with.
then you may want to just stop by the local court house and ask one of the
clerks there if they could give you some names and hopefully telephone
numbers. If they ask why you want to know, just tell them that you are
considering the purchase of a large or unusually heavy vehicle but want to
check on the laws first before doing so. I would not mention that you have
been to the DMV or MVA or whatever your state calls them as they may have
connections there ... it is a much smaller world than any of us can imagine.
Department Secretary ( again your state may have different titles for this
position), member of your state legislature or Governor may make a great
deal of difference.
chip on his shoulder. While working and dealing with the public, I always
told potential complainants (about my services or perceived lack of) that it
is better to start at the top and work your way down than to start at the
bottom and work your way up. Much quicker results, usually.
title/registration and explain that you have a vehicle that has wheels and
tires not tracks, no large guns or anything else that resembles a "tank" and
that the vehicle is basically an armored car. Tell that person that you
would like to obtain a title and registration in your state and ask him/her
to help you do so. Then, ask them to explain in writing what would prevent
you from obtaining the title and registration if he/she is unable to help
you title and register the "motor vehicle."
than a motor vehicle. When I titled my M35A2 the gentleman at the MVA was
very friendly and helpful (believe it or not). When I told him it was an
all-wheel-drive American General truck, he entered the information as an
"AMERICAN SUV". So, why can't your motor vehicle just be considered as a
SUV or whatever similar name your state uses?
registration of the vehicle the obligation is on the state to explain to you
why. I think that if you request this information in writing the state
would pretty much be obligated to do so.
have this information documented, and the state still fails to help you ...
contact a newspaper reporter and see if the newspaper would be interseted in
doing an article on the vehicle. No government agency or employee wants to
be mentioned in the newspaper in anything but a positive way.
1954 Willys USMC M38A1
1972 Am Gen USA M35A2 w/winch
1985 Turtle Mtn. USAF M105A2
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