From: Nigel Hay MILWEB (nigel@milweb.net)
Date: Tue Jan 31 2006 - 01:59:23 PST
That proves it, my friends Halftrack wasnt the one on the Bethune run as he
rather stupidly put in a stream and siezed the engine - so ANOTHER ex IDF
International has the same amazing speed....
I think the gearbox is standard. There was an ex IDF around with a Leyland
diesel that was just not man enough for the half track - no idea what
happened to it.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On Behalf
Of Michael Gillman
Sent: 31 January 2006 10:50
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] Halftrack re-engine projects
It was definitely Israeli as it had 'known' history, sand paint job under
the Olive Drab and the owner found numerous items with Hebrew writing on
during the restoration including the twin fuel tanks, old food packaging and
several live 50 cal rounds. The odd thing is the Petrol engine and manual
'box. The HT must have been released before the re-engining programme took
place. Does anyone know when this was?
As for the ported engine, I would definitely agree: he had it on the Bethune
run in France last year and he was having to keep his speed down to let
jeeps catch up! We had been told that White and International gearboxes were
interchangeable. Maybe this is the case once the gearbox bell housing has
been swapped? Next time someone has a HT engine or gearbox out, could I
request that they measure the bell housing diameter and let me know?
Cheers - Mike Gillman
From: Convoy Magazine <convoymagazine@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [MV] Halftrack re-engine projects
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:43:46 -0800 (PST)
>Perhaps the "Israeli" International, was an
>International made in Canada?
>cheers
>
>
>--- Michael Gillman <tootallmike@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>Hello,
>
>
>
>Seeing as there are several Halftrack and Scout car
>owners out there, I thought I�d mention a couple of
>projects I�m currently involved with:
>
>
>
>1: Ex-Israeli International HT: replacing original
>engine with a 5.9l Cummins �B� diesel, using the
>original gearbox. This is being done partly to improve
>reliability and starting in cold and damp weather, but
>also as an engineering challenge.
>
>
>
>2: �Modified� International HT: installing NOS
>White engine and �box into a heavily butchered
>�bitsa�. It should look and sound ok from outside
>but don�t look too closely at the rear bodywork,
>which is mostly bolted mild steel plate.
>
>
>
>We�ve discovered something very interesting between
>these 2 set-ups and I wonder whether anyone else would
>like to comment: the flywheel housings are different
>sizes.
>
>
>
>The ex-Israeli one had an SAE 2 housing on both the
>engine and �box, while the NOS White units are both
>SAE 3 (ie. smaller). The engines and �boxes appear
>similar in all other respects. The size difference was
>a surprise when we�d carefully lined up the Cummins
>parts based on measurements taken from the White
>units. Moral: never make assumptions.
>
>
>
>We know that the Israelis upgraded many of their
>HT�s with Detroit diesels and Allison auto �boxes,
>so our theory is that they may have upgraded the
>housings on all petrol engines and �boxes in
>anticipation of this dieselisation programme.
>
>
>
>The other theory is that White and International
>engines and �boxes have different sized flywheel
>housings as standard.
>
>
>
>Does anyone have any experience of working on Israeli
>HT�s or of re-engining HT�s?
>
>
>
>Regards to all � Mike Gillman
>
>
>
>
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