Re: history - WWI 1917 German sub sinks U.S. passenger ship California

From: Jack Lee (milveh@dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue Feb 07 2006 - 07:59:57 PST


My Uncle was 18 when he was killed by a sniper in the Black Forest
region.... 5 days after the war was over. He served in the Army as an
infantry private. Killed by a German solider who refused to accept the fact
Germany had been defeated. Eye witness accounts from his unit reported to
my grandmother that several German soldiers were captured after firing on
our forces, after being told the war was over. They were released on a
promise to stop. Ironically, his brother was later to survive WWII as a POW
captured on Wake Island, only to be mudered on his return....beaten to death
for his wallet at a Los Angeles bus stop.

Jack

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Subject: Re: [MV] history - WWI 1917 German sub sinks U.S. passenger ship
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> Whatever the case, I know from personal family history that WW1 was not
> our best effort. My grandfather's older brother died in France in WW1. He
> was in active combat for almost a week. That was after basic training
> that I understand also lasted for about a week before he was shipped out.
> From his letters, he said he felt unprepared. He was the second American
> generation from a German imigrant.
>
> Dave
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> dgrev wrote:
>> Marty
>>
>>> Something tells me WWI would have been kindled whether Ferdinand had
>>> been assassinated or not.
>>
>>
>> I was under the impression that the general consensus was that war
>> had been brewing for years. The trouble was that nobody wanted to
>> appear to be the aggresor. The assasination of the Arch Duke was
>> the excuse needed for the whole thing to break loose.
>>
>> All comes down to political outlook. There are countless occurences
>> in history of "incidents" where diplomacy "won the day". Or is it
>> more a case of the reality that nobody really felt like a war at
>> that time, so everybody did some sabre rattling, saved face and
>> backed off.
>>
>> Just think back to a few famous airliner and military aircraft
>> downings that could have easily sparked something nasty.
>> Or incidents where military ships have been seized, or returned
>> home looking like more like sieves. Some of these started a war,
>> some didn't.
>>
>> The difference being the political desire at the time.
>>
>> Regards
>> Doug
>>
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