Re: Unwashed biodiesel concern

From: recovry4x4 (recovry4x4@bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu May 04 2006 - 21:32:43 PDT


Hmmm! I wonder what the evaporation rate of methanol is? Seems that most
alcohols evaporate pretty quickly. I wonder if areating (sp) the fuel will
cause the methanol to evaproate?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Unwashed biodiesel concern

> Fuel dryer additives are not methanol, but ethanol, which has a higher
> boiling temp.
> Ethanol can also be used instead of methanol in biodiesel production, but
> costs more.
> One other solution is to install a thermal blanket around the tank to keep
> the temperature under control.
>
> Bjorn
>
>
>>From: "Glenn Shaw" <milspectruck@verizon.net>
>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>Subject: Re: [MV] Unwashed biodiesel concern
>>Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 09:49:35 -0400
>>
>>I would think it is just a matter of quantity. With the water dispersals
>>you are adding a couple of 12 oz cans. Bjorn may be talking about enough
>>of
>>a quantity that it all will not remain azeotropically bonded to the water
>>and begin to come off as significant amounts of Methanol vapor. That
>>could
>>pose a problem near the tank vent if someone lit up a ciggy. I would just
>>monitor the sit and see, but I would definitely not have any fuel system
>>venting near any source of ignition to be safe.
>>
>>Glenn
>>MTA
>>MVPA
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
>>Behalf
>>Of Rick v100
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:14 AM
>>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [MV] Unwashed biodiesel concern
>>
>>
>>Isn't alochol used in most fuel dryers? So what is the difference between
>>having the methanol left in and adding fuel dryer?
>>
>>--- Bjorn Brandstedt <super_deuce@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I do have one concern about using unwashed biodiesel
>> > and that is the fact
>> > that methanol starts to boil at 148 deg F.
>> > This could be a factor in a hot climate with the sun
>> > beaming down on the
>> > fuel tank.
>> > I have received a couple of numbers from Kenny in
>> > Florida and Ken in TX on
>> > the fuel temp, but those were not maximum or worst
>> > case conditions.
>> >
>> > It could be a fire hazard.
>> >
>> > If any of you would care to add to this, I would be
>> > most appreciative.
>> > Just measure the fuel temp with the engine running
>> > (return fuel is hot) and
>> > report the highest temperature with the sun hitting
>> > the tank. I suspect 150
>> > F would not be out of question.
>> >
>> > TIA
>> >
>> > Bjorn
>> >
>> >
>> >
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