Re: movie... "Play Dirty"/Sd.Kfz.

From: The Alamo (thealamo@igb.cnr.it)
Date: Thu Jun 22 2006 - 04:05:20 PDT


Jun 22 2006

Sonny,
it stands for Sonderkraftfarzeuge: it was a whole family of
half-tracks. Usually after "Sd.Kfz." there is a number and a letter which
denoted the model (or variant). It is fascinating the amount of
half-tracks the Germans did have in WWII, any of them for specific duties...
The replica based on the Czech postwar OT810 refers to the Sd.Kfz. 251. I
would love to have one, even if it cannot be road registered here in Italy...
May I take this opportunity to ask a courtesy: on my jeep the B.O. cage on
the left fender was missing. I have purchased one, unfortunately there are
no mounting holes on the fender. May I have a template from a jeep showing
the position of the holes so I can drill them on my fender?? THANK YOU!!

Regards and
Keep Them Rolling!

Raimondo
1943 GPW Jeep

At 19.58 20/06/2006, SONNY wrote:
>What do you mean by Sd.Kfz. ? What is that abbreviation stand for?
>
>Sonny
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "The Alamo" <thealamo@igb.cnr.it>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:10 AM
>Subject: Re: [MV] MV movie question... "Play Dirty"
>
>
>>Jun 20 2006
>>
>>Glenn,
>>The one of The Dirty Dozen was the tractor used to haul the 8.8 cm. A.A.
>>cannon.
>>The OT810 was manufactured postwar by the same Manufacturing plant (the
>>Skoda, the car manufacturer now part of the Volkswagen Group) which made
>>them for the Germans during WWII and was used post-war by the Czech Army:
>>the main difference between the WWII Sd.Kfz. and the OT810 is in the
>>engine, it is a diesel one while the original was a gasoline one. Also
>>the OT810 does have a completely enclosed armored roof while the German
>>Sd.Kfz. did have an open roof.
>>The OT810 is very sought after by Collectors/reenactors because it is the
>>only way of having a very close replica of a German WWII halftrack at a
>>reasonable price. In England there are many of them, modified by cutting
>>the roof. I would love to have one... You may see them at War & Peace.
>>If you have not been there you have to: really is a shocking experience.
>>Usually more then 3000 mil-veh are there in 5 days and collectors do come
>>a couple of days before the official opening...
>>Regards
>>Raimondo
>>1943 GPW Jeep
>>
>>
>>At 14.26 20/06/2006, GLENN wrote:
>>>Yes, I remember that half track very well in The Dirty Dozen. Lee
>>>Marvin and the others running around in that half track produced some
>>>great shots of it in action. As I recall there is a collector on Cape
>>>Cod in Mass who has one that he used to bring to parades and
>>>re-enactments. I believe it is a Czech OT810 however,and not an
>>>original Sd.Kfz. Quite a machine.
>>>Glenn
>>>MVPA
>>>MTANJ
>>>
>>>The Alamo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Jun 20 2006
>>>>
>>>>Greg,
>>>>Following my posting of yesterday, as I have promised, I have checked
>>>>my books (I did not remember that I have two more ones in English!):
>>>>the movie is PLAY DIRTY - 1969, as also suggested by another Lister
>>>>yesterday.
>>>>
>>>>It has been a pleasure to go through my books looking for your movie.
>>>>There were a lot of war movies which I did not remember of... and many
>>>>I have not seen because have been considered less important or marginal
>>>>by our TV Stations.
>>>> The only fault of "Play Dirty" are the U.S. half-tracks disguised as
>>>> German Sd.Kfz. half-tracks. However, this is a minor fault because at
>>>> the time all German half-tracks used in war movies were U.S. ones. In
>>>> 1969 there were VERY VERY few mil-veh collectors owning running German
>>>> WWII half-tracks. The only original one used in a movie I remember of
>>>> is an German Sd.Kfz. half-track used at the end of DIRTY DOZEN. It
>>>> seems that it was recovered in a British farm. Anybody does remember it?
>>>>Regards and
>>>>Keep Them Rolling!
>>>>
>>>>Raimondo
>>>>1943 GPW Jeep
>>>>
>>>>At 08.33 17/06/2006, GREG wrote:
>>>>> OK, MV movie gurus - need some help out with this one.
>>>>> I'm trying to find the title of this movie (or maybe it was a TV
>>>>> movie?), but the only thing that some friends and I can remember
>>>>> from it
>>>>> is one scene where trucks are being winched up a cliff. Location was
>>>>> probably supposed to be North Africa, time more than likely was
>>>>> supposed
>>>>> to be WW2. Movie was in color, if that helps. [...]
>>>>>I'm trying to find the title of this movie (or maybe it was a TV movie?),
>>>>>but the only thing that some friends and I can remember from it is one
>>>>>scene
>>>>>where trucks are being winched up a cliff. Location was probably
>>>>>supposed to
>>>>>be North Africa, time more than likely was supposed to be WW2. Movie
>>>>>was in
>>>>>color, if that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does this ring a bell with anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>>Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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