Military Vehicles, January 1997,: Re: MB 130555 again

Re: MB 130555 again

Todd Paisley (paisley@erols.com)
Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:11:37 -0500

> In simple terms, my own personal research. It has taken 12 years so far,
> of mostly solid data entry to get the initial databases running. Then it
> took about another six years to enter security clear, research, locate
> and then collate only some of our Army Navy & Air Force records. By
> using a relational database & having a good working knowledge of our
> military system I got all this stuff together & still doing it!
>

I'm in the process of starting up a database of engine numbers with casting
and assembly dates, transmission assembly codes and axle assembly
dates for MBs. We should compare notes. I would be interested in how
you are storing your data. I assume the records you searched are
Austrailian military records? I have made numerous trips to the National
Archives looking the the Quartermaster records finding US MB records
and I haven't found anything.

> By the way, I have just had a look at the engine ranges for these jeeps.
> A small pattern has emerged. What it seems is that we got the even
> numbered chassis' in the MB 13055x range, so possibly the British or
> Canadians got the odd ones.

There was a Canadian contract for slat grilles in the 118XXX to 121XXX
range. I'm in the process of restoring a low windshield slat grille
(103411) and I am frustrated that I can't find my registration number.
So I started a database of known slat grilles to see if I can find any
pattern in the data. When I sorted the data, a similar pattern to what
you described emerged with a bunch of Canadian slat grilles. A friend
of mine recently confirmed this when someone sent him a photocopy
of the cover of Canadian MB parts book.

Slat Grille MBs

Serial
Number DOD Place where vehicle resides
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100005 11-17-41 Island Heights, NJ
100064 Bloomington, IN
100122 11-24-41 Orange, CA
100720 12-02-41 Chandler, IN
100948 11-27-41 Angeles City, Pampanga, Philippines
100965 11-27-41 Roswell, NM
101746 12-09-41 Grosse Ile, MI
102019 12-10-41 Georgetown, CA
102044 12-04-41 Daytona, FL
102157 12-04-41 Huntsville, AL
102367 Hudson, WI
102393 Island Heights, NJ
102460 12-03-41 Minneapolis, MN
102554 12-31-41 Willows, CA
102789 Issaquah, WA
103013 12-10-41 Manhattan, KS
103331 12-11-41 Erial, NJ
103357 12-15-41 Bay Shore, NY
103411 12-16-41 Williamsport, MD (bought in southern VA)
103522 12-15-41 Reidsville, NC
103661 12-16-41 Fredericksburg, VA
103677 12-21-41 Baraboo, WI
104135 12-16-41 Empoli, Italy
104664 12-17-41 Florham Park, NJ
104983 12- -41 Lake Forest, CA
105143 12-20-41 Empoli, Italy
105193 12-12-41 Los Altos Hills, CA
105018 12-12-41 Bentonville, VA
105734 12-22-41 Torino Italy
106085 12-22-41 Bristol, PA
106332 Milan, OH
106461 Pittsburgh, PA
106477 12-24-41 Frederick, MD
106735 Milwaukee, WI
107057 12-24-41 Williamsport, MD (bought in central PA)
107195 01-16-42 Echternach, Luxembourg
107398 01-19-42 Jacksonville, FL
107507 Damascus, MD
107524 12-30-41 La Mirada, CA
108353 Underwood, WA
111191 Springfield, Kentucky
111209 Wheeling, WV
113037 Naperville, IL
113184 Williamsport, MD (bought in
central PA)
113943 Midlothian, VA
114620 03-05-43 Navarre, OH
115777 02-02-42 Lake Elsionre, CA
116321 New York, NY
116961 02-04-42 Dover, NH
117060 02-05-42 Mountianhome, PA
117096 Sutherland, VA
118823 Maple Ridge, British Columbia,
Canada
118973 02-11-42 Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
119161 02-12-42 Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada

119326 Scarborough, Ontario, Canada
119481 02-12-42 Scarborough, Ontario, Canada
119670 02-13-42 Lauzon, Quebec, Canada
119949 02-17-42 Longueuil, Quebec, Canada
12023? Watertown, CT
121060 02-26-42 Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
122112 Kent, WA
122576 Milan, OH
122888 Milwukee, WI
123181 Yuma, Arizona
123723 Sunbury, OH
123761 Streetsboro, OH
124393 Portland, OR
124951 Wildwood, FL
124955 Jacksonville, FL
125636 Sarasota, FL

> If your engine was original it should be in the range of MB 1328xx up to
> MB 13305x. It may be MB 133046 ?!

I would be interested in hearing how you arrived at these numbers.

> PS: You may have seen other mail come thru concerning slat grill units.
> I have photo proof that slat were issued all over the place well past
> the magical 125xxx range. In my calendar there is one of similar issue
> on the January page.

How are you determining that the grilles were attached at the factory and
not an arsenal rebuild? Are these dated photos?

Todd Paisley

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'41 Willys MB "slat-grille" (restoration in progress)
'42 Ford GPW "script" (very rough)
'44 CJ2 Agri-Jeep (#12 of 12 prototypes built for testing
whether Jeeps had a civilian use!)
'45 CJ2A (68th CJ ever built!) (Just a pile of parts...)
'46 CJ2A (early column shift)
'46 CJ2A (late)
'47 CJ2A (Farm Jeep with 3-point Monroe hydraulic implement lift)
'48 CJ2A (trencher)
'64 CJ5A (Tuxedo Park Mark IV) (column shift with front bench seat option)
'64 Wagoneer (with IFS option) (39,000 original miles)
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