Military Vehicles, January 1997,: Re: GPW rubber parts. Was:1943 GPW

Re: GPW rubber parts. Was:1943 GPW

Todd Paisley (paisley@erols.com)
Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:41:43 -0500

I don't think this is correct. The first GPW contract W-398-qm-10977
explicitly called for the following break up of the 15,000 vehicles on
that contract:

3500 Dearborn, MI
2500 Chester, PA
2500 Dallas, TX
4000 Louisville, KY
2500 Long Beach, CA

("The Jeep - Its Development and Procurement Under the
Quartermaster Corps, 1940-1942", Herbert R. Rifkind, 1943. pg.135)

For Ford to even transfer some production from one plant to another,
the contract needed to be modified and approved by the government.
Unless there are some records that exist that state what serial
numbers were assigned to what factory, I don't think you can guess
which plant your GPW was made. I have GPW 11509 which is off
this first contract. I have no idea how to even guess which plant
it was made at since the GPWs were made concurrently. It could
be anyone of the above five plants.

Todd Paisley

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> From: Michael Meister <mike@agen.tamu.edu>
> To: Todd Paisley <paisley@erols.com>
> Cc: Bill Kish <kish@browncow.com>; mil-veh@skylee.com
> Subject: Re: GPW rubber parts. Was:1943 GPW
> Date: Monday, January 27, 1997 9:21 PM
>
> Todd,
>
> I believe that most, if not all, of the GP's and early GPW's were built
at
> Ford's River Rouge
> Plant (Detriot, MI). In addition, bodies were constructed at the
Lincoln
> car plant and
> seat cushions were produced at the Highland Park plant. By early 1943,
> however, increased demand necessitated that Ford build jeeps in other
> factories as well. So by the time the War was over, jeeps had also been
> manufactured in Edgewater (NJ), Dallas (TX), Richmond (CA), Chester (PA),

> Louisville (KY), and Dearborn (MI). Each plant was assigned certain
> units from different contracts. So by taking your chassis number and
> figuring out which contract your GPW fell under, you MIGHT be able to
> estimate which factory your GPW PROBABLY came from.
>
> (This info came from pp 27-39 of AAW Vol. 1)
>
> Mike Meister
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Todd Paisley wrote:
>
> > Input and output seals on the transfer case also changed to
> > leather. How do you determine which Ford plant a GPW
> > came from? A friend of mine has a bunch of data plates
> > and he has noticed some differences in the way the data
> > plate are stamped. (Type of stamp used, location of various
> > stamps, etc.) He thinks the plates were different because
> > they came from different plants. I would love to know where
> > my GPW was built at.
> >
> > Todd Paisley
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Bill Kish <kish@browncow.com>
> > > To: mil-veh@skylee.com; Michael Meister <mike@agen.tamu.edu>
> > > Subject: GPW rubber parts. Was:1943 GPW
> > > Date: Monday, January 27, 1997 9:57 AM
> > >
> > > Michael Meister writes:
> > > > I have a couple of questions regarding authenticity:
> > > >
> > > > 1) When did they go to leather boots over the transmission and
> > transfer
> > > > case shafts?
> > > >
> > > > 2) When did they start using lengths of steel tubing in the
radiator
> > > > hoses instead of all rubber?
> > > >
> > > > I know these changes were a result of the rubber shortage
beginning in
> >
> > > > 1942, so is it safe to say that in April 1943 both of these
changes
> > had
> > > > been made, or is that an incorrect assumption?
> > > >
> > >
> > > You're right. A 4/43 GPW would be well into the rubber shortage time
> > > frame. I don't have any exact dates for the above changes and it may
> > > be impossible to ever determine them, but by Fall '42 Ford seems to
> > > have started replacing rubber with less critical materials where
> > > possible. This included:
> > >
> > > Shift lever boots, radiator hoses, hood blocks, grommets, carb
intake
> > > seal, tie rod end seals, tool & glove box seals. (Any others?)
> > >
> > > It would be interesting to hear from owners of original GPWs in the
> > > crossover period to try to determine the approximate dates of the
> > > changeovers at the various Ford assembly plants.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -BK
> > > --
> >
>
>
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