Military-Vehicles: Re: [MV] Column shift jeeps

Re: [MV] Column shift jeeps

Jeff Polidoro (willys@vgernet.net)
Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:47:09 -0400

> What transmission was used in the CJ2 with column shift? Is it a T-90A?
Were
> the agricultural jeeps also column shift? If so what transmission did
they
> use? Were the parts used in these column shift jeeps leftovers from MA
> production?
They appear, for the most part, to have had T-90s, at least in the
configuration
that they were eventually sold to the public in. Many seem to have been
repowered by Willys post-testing and pre-sale. Whether the new engine was
the extent of it or the entire driveline or pieces, on an as required
basis, were replaced is not known, for certain and may never be, at this
point. But that does seem to be the case as well. Many CJ2s appear with
the "T-90" stenciled on the cowl.

The AgriJeeps (CJ2-01 to CJ2-12) and slightly later CJ2s (#13 to 44, 45,
50? or so) were all column shift. They appear, for the most part, to have
had T-90s, at least in the configuration that they were eventually sold to
the public in. Many seem to have been
repowered by Willys post-testing and pre-sale. Whether the new engine was
the extent of it or the entire driveline or pieces, on an as required
basis, were replaced is not known, for certain and may never be, at this
point. But that does seem to be the case as well. Many CJ2s appear with
"T-90" stenciled on the cowl. I had CJ2-32 and it has it's original T-90.
I have CJ2A 10012 which is the 12th 2A built. It also has it's original
T-90. I'll check, but from memory I think both transmission cases were
cast April 5, 1945. The 2A's was assembled into a complete unit on June
24, 1945. If I am mistaken, I will post a correction.

Some photos seem to indicate they may have been tested with T-84s. There
are photos which show the cowl stenciled "T-84X" . ( They are also
stenciled "8 1/2 C" and "L.G.R." which
most likely stands for 8 1/2 " clutch and low gear ratio (5.38 vs 4.88)
They were probably not leftover MA units. Meaning the casting date of the
case may have been 1944 instead of 1941, essentially the same side shift
T-84 unit with whatever modification (probably some HD mod) they were
testing to merit the X designation which I assume is for experimental.

There were some very early, maybe as early as 1943, CJs which, for lack of
a better term or until we can find one and see how it is identified, Todd
Paisley and I refer to as the "CJ-1s" but that is our own term and there is
*no* historical documentation for that term ever being used by anyone but
us. These were essentially converted MBs with the axe sheath, combat rims,
etc. still in place. These appear, from photo(s) to have been cane shift.

If you have 6 or 7 of these (either model) laying around I'd be happy to
talk to your fleet sales manager :-)

Regards,

JP

P.S Why do you ask?

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