Re: [MV] A Jeep is a jeep is a GP

Jeff Polidoro (willys@vgernet.net)
Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:33:30 -0500

> >The ironic point is, the Army/soldiers apparently coined the term, yet
> >collectors are saying they then used it incorrectly for later
> >generations of vehicles. Think about it. The entire effort at
> >attepting to determine what is "right" is so twisted, it can never be
> >legitimate.
>
>
> I think you don't understand the point. No one is saying later vehicles
are
> not "Jeeps". Tell me where the logic fails:
>
> 1) Before 1940, there was no such vehicle as the 1/4-ton.
> 2) The 1/4-ton arrive on the scene.
> 3) Soldiers coin the term "jeep".
> 4) The name "jeep" becomes popular.
> 5) Willys decides to make a brand name of "jeep" by capitalizing it to
> "Jeep".
> 6) Models after WWII are "Jeeps".
>
> Explain where the "twisting" is. I don't understand the "twisting"
> here.....
>
> Todd Paisley

As much as it pains me, I gotta throw in with Major Jim here. Think of it
this way...

1) At some point in time, there's no such thing as a refrigerator.
2) Someone invents a thing called the "refrigerator" to keep food cold.
3) A company does a fantastic job of marketing their refrigerator which is
_brand named_ "Frigidaire".
4) They are so effective at it, that everyone, eventually, calls their
refrigerator, "the Frigidaire" regardless of manufacturer, make or model.
5) But this is wrong, only Frigidaire refrigerators are "Frigidaires",
everything else is a refrigerator, so now the language contains both words.

First you had refrigerators, then Frigidaires _and_ refrigerators. Same
thing with jeeps/Jeeps. First there were jeeps, then there were Jeeps _and
_ jeeps. If you recognize that the word jeep applied to a certain type of
vehicle, Bantam 40, Bantam 60, MA, GP, MB, GPW, which were similar but not
identical or of the same manufacturer, then you have to leave behind that
coined term jeep to anyone who wishes to use it describe a vehicle which
fits into the original mold because there's no reason (Army/soldiers)
should have to find a new word just because Willys took a specific form of
their word for commercial use but they can, no longer, accurately use
Willys' trademarked "Jeep" to describe those vehicles. Willys trademarked
"Jeep" doesn't mean that folks have to stop using the term jeep, in fact
they, really, can't because the W.W.II jeeps don't automatically,
retroactively become Jeeps, (especially the GPWs, et al).

What do you think?

JP

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