[Fwd: [MV] M-715 Poormans ENG. CONV.]

rickl (rickl@npark.com)
Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:59:35 -0500

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:00:55 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MV] M-715 Poormans ENG. CONV.
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Perhaps a cheaper way would be to buy a complete J truck for parts and swap
in what you want then junk the rest. Things like power steering and exhaust
parts will be needed for the conversion also. If you shop carefully a donor
J truck probably could be obtained for under $1000.
Rick

Al Krason wrote:

> Hi Mark! This is especially for you !!
>
> This is Al Krason here in Denver, there is an alternative
> to the 230 Tornado,(that is blown) there is an inexpensive replacement
> for the 230.
>
> THIS IS THE POORMANS PERFORMANCE INCREASE TO THE KAISER M-715 JEEP.
>
> I did some looking to see what will fit the T-98 4 speed in the Kaiser,
> M-715 Jeep, while retaining the original T-98 4 speed. This is what I
> have found:(please take this for what it is worth to you as the most
> inexpensive upgrade of M-715 Kaiser). If a "PROPER UPGRADE IS DONE"
> the cost is indeed very high, going with the standard Novack $360,
> Advance Adapters, cost is about $500 for A/AD + $130 for eng mounts.
>
> $800. Rebuilt 350 chevy
> $630. A/AD
> $ 75. Bellhousing used
> $ 50. Clutch new
> $ 25. Pilot bushing/bearing new
> $ 30. Throw out bearing new
> $ 75. Pressure plate
> $ 75. Flywheel used
> $250. Core for 350 chevy (no they will not take the 230 Tornado in
> exchange)
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> About $2000. for just the main hardwere and when you add the stuff below
> it will push you to about $3000. So you got a good truck with a 350 cu
> engine. Now I now that to install a DIESEL 6.2/6.5 GM is much more
> expensive
> (the GM has the same bolt pattern as the 350 Chevy) so 6.2 is $3200.00,
> a
> long block rebuilt with injector pump, you still need a core, and all
> the
> stuff in the middle. About $4000 big bucks. So the question is what
> can be done to make it a "Good project with some reason of sanity"??
>
> Please note that I did not include stuff like: Labor Cost, radiator,
> oils &
> fluids, filters, new starter, alternator, carb, distributor stuff &
> wires
> plugs etc.etc...
>
> The METHOD M-715 upgrade (take your time in developing
> the proper steps in conversion, remember it's all cost, Your's).
>
> (A) Use the AMC 360/401 engine,(they are very inexpensive In Junk Yards
> about $100. for a whole engine (U-Pull)in the Denver market,
> overhaul kit is $170 with all parts I.E. rings, bearings,
> gaskets,etc..)
> (B) You need to get the bellhousing, from the T-18 4 speed
> (it came on the following J-series Jeeps full size, with 8cyl
> 1971-1978 (tooth count S27-L17T & S27-L23T)). Stickout is the
> lenght of the shaft on the output of the 4 speed, just the
> shaft to the first step on the 4 speed) the length of the
> sitickout has to be 14 1/8" on the right T-18 4 speed. The
> T-98 4 speed has a stickout of 10 1/4" too short for the
> bellhousing that comes with the full size J-series trucks.
> The T-98 & T-18 are the same length and have same bolt pattern,
> the difference is the size of the input shaft diameter, T-98
> has Diam. of 1 1/16" and the T-18 has the Diam. of 1 1/8".
> The T-98 has 17 splines & the T-18 has 17 & 23 splines-(71-72)
> 17 splines-(73-78) *I am only talking about the 14 1/8" stick-
> out 4 speed and years made.. If you can find a Jeep (fullsize)
> that has a 360 or a 401 with a 4 speed (T-18) it will drop in
> to the M-715, (the best method & cost effective, all from Junk
> yard $250.) in the following years 1971-1978. A T-98 can be
> used providing that a input center shaft is changed from
> 10 1/4" to 14 1/8" (a disassembly of T-98 is required).
>
> (C) COSTS>>>>>>> $150. eng good runing (bellhousing & flywheel etc..)
> (Junk yard block).
> $170. overhaul kit
> $ 80. shaft for T-98
> $ 50. clutch heavy duty
> $ 30. throw-out bearing
> $ 75. pressure plate
> $ 40. eng. mounts
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> This is much more sane $600. plus Labor & Stuff $1000... $1600.
>
> I will try to refine this further for better costs.
> Let me know if this list can be expanded more, to include better
> way of doing stuff... ADD, EXPAND, INPUT, SUGGEST, PLEASE !!!<<<<
>
> I hope the length is not a problem, it is the best way I could
> come across.. Al Krason, Denver, CO
>
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