Re: [MV] S&S FMTV

Carl Konefsky (cameraman@niia.net)
Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:10:38 -0500

There is more to this then we know you dont haul brand new stuff back to the
factory by the truck loads.The story I heard was they getting them back
Carl

Dave Cole wrote:

> Shane,
>
> How can S&S explain the vibration problems that have apparently became
> commonplace in a vehicle that was so highly tested?
>
> Also, in a combat situation, would you be satisfied with not exceeding
> the 30 mph speed limit just because of some design problems in a truck?
> (Soldiers choice? come on) Remember that we have tanks that can run
> more than twice that speed. These vibration problems should of been
> caught through testing. Not by components failing in the field. I'm
> sure that no one created this problem intentionally, but it should of
> been caught before thousands of vehicles were put into service.
>
> BTW, was the $5.00/mile saving calculated based upon all vehicles
> traveling at 30 mph or less? And how much does it cost to retrofit a
> truck to get rid of this problem? Was that factored into the $5.00/mile
> savings? Come on, S&S screwed up. This should of never happened.
>
> Dave Cole
>
> On Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:01:52 -0500 Shane G Deemer
> <1sgd6508@unixstew.tstc.edu> writes:
> >Sir, I am not sure where you get your information from; I noticed some
> >errors in it.
> >
> >>I was just in Texas doing business and saw truck loads of thease
> >being
> >>hauled down there.
> >
> >----------------------
> >Who exactly did you ask about this?
> >
> >I ask about it and was told by someone who said he
> >>knew what seems to be happening.The first ones are just plain bad
> >news
> >>and there is more problems then being reported
> >
> >---------------------------
> >A stolen contract? I doubt that. Stewart & Stevenson has built a much
> >better vehicle than AM General. "FMTV costs nearly $5.00 per miles
> >less to
> >operate than the existing antiquated fleet of M35 and M939 trucks.
> >Overall,
> > FMTV is the most cost-effective tactical truck ever procured by the
> >U.S.
> >military. "
> >
> >its kind of a major
> >>secert as this contact was like stolen from AM General and others and
> >
> >"Newsday questioned the company's experience assembling wheeled
> >vehicles.
> >Stewart &
> > Stevenson has been assembling and manufacturing vehicles since
> >World
> >War II, when the
> > company built and rebuilt trucks for the U.S. Army. In recent
> >years,
> >the company has built or
> > assembled thousands of trucks, buses, airline ground support
> >vehicles,
> >and tactical trailers for
> > U.S. and foreign customers. On the FMTV program, Stewart &
> >Stevenson
> >assembles trucks
> > incorporating components manufactured by U.S. Army approved
> >vendors
> >throughout the
> > United States. These components which represent about 80 percent
> >of
> >the cost of a FMTV
> > are purchased from union and non-union suppliers. "
> >
> >>given to a company who had no experance in building this type of
> >>thing.
> >
> >-------------------------
> >
> >Who exactly is this we?
> >
> >"Most importantly, FMTVs currently being delivered to the Army far
> >exceed
> >contractual
> > requirements in safety, reliability and performance. This fact is
> >supported by Army records
> > obtained in more than one million miles of testing conducted on
> >FMTV
> >since program
> > inception in 1991. The consistent 98 percent availability rating
> >achieved in the field and the
> > 8,000 miles between failures (against a requirement of 3,000)
> >verify
> >this trucks superiority.
> > FMTV already has surpassed the capabilities of all previous Army
> >medium tactical truck
> > programs.
> >
> > Strict quality safeguards are in place to prevent truck defects.
> >The
> >FMTV facility in Sealy
> > assembles trucks at a quality rate of 99.96%, virtually error
> >free on
> >the moving production
> > line. A recent independent ISO 9001 audit of Stewart &
> >Stevenson's
> >system and processes
> > reconfirmed the quality certification. "
> >
> >----------------------
> >Stewart & Stevenson has a lot of experience in building these type of
> >vehicles, and they have been proven to be very reliable. What do you
> >not
> >agree with?
> >
> >Who know what is going on but we are getting screwed again like
> >>importing and demiling.
> >>Carl
> >
> >Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:41:55 -0500
> >From: Carl Konefsky <cameraman@niia.net>
> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U)
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> >To: mil-veh@skylee.com
> >Subject: [MV] S&S FMTV
> >Sender: owner-Mil-Veh@skylee.com
> >Reply-To: Carl Konefsky <cameraman@niia.net>
> >
> >--
> >-Shane
> >
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