Re: [MV] MVPA Committee replys...sort of....

Jason Rose (m151a1@micron.net)
Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:54:27 -0600

Anybody interested in starting a new collectors group? Maybe we should get
serious about this. One thing nice about a new group is we can take all the
B.S. problems we are having with the MVPA and change it. Make a new,
improved group.

Suggestions?

Jason
----- Original Message -----
From: Antoine Compin <acompin@earthlink.net>
To: jim gilmore <jgilmore@oeonline.com>; <mil-veh@skylee.com>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] MVPA Committee replys...sort of....

> Jim, like I said before in a rather long post (I'll keep this
> one short), it's time now to regroup, and move forward with the
> creation of a new group.
>
> a/- From what I have read so far and looking at the answer you
> have received from K.Tucker, I can tell you now that this will
> not go any further towards a solution to vindicate you. The MVPA
> HQ folks are all wrapped up in their by-laws and legally, they
> DO have a leg to stand on.
> b/- This situation has now become so acrimonious and there are
> so many people now involved or "au courant" that it is now
> unmanageable.
>
> Now is the time to count your supporters and create your own
> Collectors Group.
>
> another two centimes worth....
>
> Antoine
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jim gilmore <jgilmore@oeonline.com>
> To: <mil-veh@skylee.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 2:34 PM
> Subject: [MV] MVPA Committee replys...sort of....
>
>
> > Hi Listers,
> > Alan Wise asked "Hey Jim Gilmore, tell us all what
> you learned over the weekend about the MVPA situation?"
> > OK, here's the latest info.
> >
> > Just before I left for the Medina, Ohio rally I received a
> letter from the MVPA on 7/21/99 via registered mail.
> > ( I had sent the MVPA Nominating Committee this question by
> fax on 7/5/99.
> > "I ask the Nominating Committee to show just cause for
> their failure to present my nomination to the Board of
> Directors")
> >
> > Here is the letter exactly as I received it word for word.
> >
> > Dear Mr Gilmore:
> >
> > It has come to my attention that you have distributed
> information critical of the MVPA and the recent nomination of
> Directors. We are disappointed that you continue to criticize
> the procedures under which the MVPA operates.
> >
> > With respect to the recent nominations, the facts are as
> follows:
> >
> > The nominating committee was appointed by the President as set
> forth in the Bylaws. This was done at the winter board meeting.
> >
> > The nominating committee reviewed resumes of all the
> applicants, including yours.
> >
> > A representative of the nominating committee interviewed each
> applicant by telephone, including you.
> >
> > The nominating committee unanimously rejected your
> application.
> >
> > The board of directors reviewed the slate of candidates
> submitted by the nominating committee and approved it by a vote
> of 10 for and 2 against.
> >
> > The bylaws were followed at every step of the process.
> >
> > We hope you will direct your efforts to strengthening the MVPA
> as we head into the next century and will work for the good of
> the organization.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Kenton Tucker (computer scanned signature, not a hand
> written signature J.G.)
> > Vice President
> >
> > That's it !! No reason, no cause, no answer to the question
> that I sent them!
> >
> > Kenton Tucker was at the Ohio rally and I asked him to
> give me an answer to my question and explain the committee's
> actions. Kenton's reply was;
> >
> > " I have been ordered by the MVPA lawyer
> not to talk to you" !!!
> >
> > Well, not being one to take no for an answer, I tried to get
> him to just give me some information on this matter. Kenton
> held firm and repeated that he really could not comment. Kenton
> is a friend of mine and I could tell that this was as upsetting
> for him as well as me. Later that day Director Garrick Smith
> and I talked at length about this situation. Garrick was also
> unable to get any information from Kenton. To his credit,
> Garrick made himself available to discuss this matter with all
> concerned members there. I feel that if the committee won't
> give a Board member a reason and they won't give me a reason,
> who will they give one to? Is there anyone that their actions
> are accountable to?
> >
> > I have once again sent a request for the Committee to give
> me a specific answer to my question;
> > "I ask the Nominating Committee to show just cause for
> their failure to present my nomination to the Board of
> Directors." If they really had a legitimate cause, you would
> think this would be a easy question to answer. How long will
> this stonewalling go on?
> >
> > I'll post more on this and on the section of the Bylaws
> (7.7 c.) that govern the actions of the Nominating Committee in
> the next few days. (Hint; the bylaws were not "followed at
> every step of the process")
> >
> > Thanks for reading this and your support,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > "Considered too dangerous to be allowed to run for the MVPA
> board"
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Jim Gilmore MVPA # 5843
> > 2565 Wiethoff Inkster, Mi. 48141
> > 313-561-8826 Phone
> > 313-730-1652 Fax
> > jgilmore@oeonline.com
> >
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