Re: [MV] Confused in CA about M35 rules.

From: DaveCole (davidcole@tk7.net)
Date: Mon Feb 28 2000 - 20:04:32 PST


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Try this tack, it worked for me once in Indiana over a licensing issue for my 43K
GVW M51 5 ton.

Get the law in a written form; off the web, in the CDL booklet, etc. Circle the
appropriate points with a pen in a differentiating color and take the materials to
the BMV and tell them what you want to do, Farm plate, non-CDL, whatever and
present the material to them. Tell them you just want to follow the law and here
it is.

At this point, they have to tell you that either the law or rules are not
applicable or they are. If they say they are not, ask for the code that is
applicable. It become much easier and logical.

They may make a few phone calls to the capital for clarification etc, but you will
probably get your way if you are legally correct. It worked for me. FWIW, the
Indiana BMV didn't even have rules and guidelines in place for registering an MV
as an actual MV. Per Indiana code, they are suppose to have procedures and
guidelines in place. (I showed them the code) They felt stupid as hell (as they
should) and I now pay $35/ year for 5 ton plates (per law there should be no
yearly plate fee). Check out the law and present it to them as an informed
citizen and see what happens. The Indiana BMV did a total about face with me once
I showed them what was code.

Dave

jonathon wrote:

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> >I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I really, truly, want to
> >be proven absolutely wrong on this one. Many list members have stated
> >that they didn't think that CDL should be necessary for non-commercial
> >use of my truck, but...
>
> Dito, I have come up with the same result in WI. Some list people keep
> throwing out the concept that a historic plate (or collector plate in WI) OR
> non-commercial (not for money) use (or farm use) does not need a CDL, but
> the codes and the state patrol and the DMV all say otherwise. The codes say
> if the truck is over 26k then you need a B and if your trailer is over 10k
> then you need an A, the only exception to the trailer part is for an RV,
> that's what it says plane as day, no other exceptions, so go figure?
>
> Personally I think I am just going to bite the bullet and get the damn A
> CDL, but being that I am not driving interstate for money the medical part
> is not required, or so I've been told. Dito for the airbrake cert, not
> required unless your truck actually has airbrakes, or plan to drive one with
> airbrakes.
>
> It's actually kind of silly to look at individual states codes anymore
> anyway, the are all comming from the feds and if you don't have the fed
> approved codes now..... you will, just give it time.
>
> je
>
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